Member Submission: Signing a paper at address verification
I have a new officer that comes by and provides a copy of the FDLE printout of our registry information. He states: Review this, make sure that it is accurate, sign and date it!” I informed him that I register through JREC quarterly as required by law. This continued,. I told him that no law compelled my compliance. Once he states it was to update hus information, I informed him of the “48 hour rule”. The he states it is to verify that he saw me. Cops are trained vti lie to you and the lies keep changing. I filed an IA Complaint, spoke with an Investigator, who agreed with me, hus letter to me was a coverup. Last month the cop asked me if I wished to sign stating that it is optional, although he only stated that to me and not all registered Person’s and I was told would be done. He the had the audacity to ask me if anything has changed, to which I replied :”That would be a registry question.” I live in Duval County, FL. The officer in question is: Detective Anderson, Badge #: 7870 and Investigating officer was: Sergeant J L. Baxley, Badge #: 7740. Persons required to register in Duval County are not required to review, sign, date anything or answer any registry questions during residency verification!
Here you go…everyone’s federal tax dollars at work…
…seems like everyone is accounted for…..waste of monies….
https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/national/law-enforcement-agencies-conduct-compliance-checks-on-sex-offenders-registered-in-cascade-county/article_07bfc27e-a901-541e-849c-e774aa84aae8.html
btw..once again, Their Math is incorrect……they need to be schooled in Mathematics……
Semper Fi
They say there are 8 persons unaccounted for…but they do not say for what?…perhaps they left that jurisdiction that day…maybe in the hospital….maybe visiting their sick mother ..maybe traveling and shopping at Wal-mart……who knows
but 8 people is nothing….again, to create a fear!
Majority of Persons Forced to Register living their lives….but the Byrne Funds Rule everything
In my county, the People’s Republic of Alachua County, when I do my quarterly registration (I am still on probation), they ask for a thumbprint and then the officer signs and dates it. I also am asked to sign an electronic version of my signature for their records. I then get a copy of it as “proof” that I was there. I keep it until the end of the month, just in case my p.o. has any questions as to whether or not I registered. Then it gets tossed. So far, I have not had to use it, but my attitude is better safe than sorry.
In addition, I have one roommate that is NOT on probation anymore. He has the sheriff’s office come by once a year to verify that he still lives here. This is in spite of Florida being a life-time registry state. However, the deputies are always polite and professional and the visit rarely lasts more than about five minutes.
It really chafes my butt when I read about “quasi-professionals,” who, are being paid salaries from my tax dollars—your tax dollars and acting like thugs or gang lords. And I can relate to you.
Here in Lee County, I’ve had several probation officers. Nine years of “professional supervision.”
I had one young guy, I say young because he was probably 20 years my younger–always tidy and nicely manicured–who would come in at 8:00 or 9:00 o’clock at night and want to do a house check. One evening he came over and I had a friend with me who was 29 years old. He asked my friend for identification because he needed to “verify” that he was “at least 18 years of age” because of my status as a sex offender.
The same probation officer told my employer that I could not be promoted to management. He smugly said to her that I was “not allowed to manage others.” She knew of my status as a Registrant and had previously gotten permission from corporate to promote me to “third key.”
“Who are you to tell him that he can’t better his life?” She challenged him.
He told her, “I’m the guy that’ll stand in front of your store and tell every one of your customers as they walk in that you’ve got a sex offender working in there.” I was fired three days later. Not by my boss, but by corporate attorneys.
Another special probation officer, I had, would come by at mid-evening, usually around dinner time. He’d enter my home and make himself comfortable on the couch and proceed to watch whatever was on TV. Or sometimes he would ask if I would change the channel to one of his favorite programs that he was missing.
I’ve had four different addresses over the last 10 years that I’ve been off probational supervision and on address verification only. I have to say, that all the officers that have come to my home for address verification have been very courteous and respectful to me, to my spouse, and even to our Shi Zu. They are in full uniform when they visit, but they drive up in an unmarked vehicle. They’ve never asked me for identification. Many times, as I walked up to the door, as soon as they’d see me, they would wave and walk away. I’ve even had a couple of drive-bys.
Scott
You said
“Another special probation officer, I had, would come by at mid-evening, usually around dinner time. He’d enter my home and make himself comfortable on the couch and proceed to watch whatever was on TV. Or sometimes he would ask if I would change the channel to one of his favorite programs that he was missing.”
That is downright disturbing, creepy and probably contrary to rules of engagement for a probation officer. Surprised they didn’t go into your kitchen and make themselves dinner.
Key comment here was “new officer”. I’ve had several PO here in Duval and no one asked me to sign anything regarding stuff I need to update at JREC. That being said – I always let my PO when/what I’ve updated JREC.
Once again, we have a law that is ambiguous in terms of enforcement. Residency verification can take many forms and is open to interpretation. However, including a JREC function is not one of them. I’d be curious to hear what JREC’s view is on this.
Been told its mandatory by local city pd and i need to sign. If im not home they harass the wife and tell her i need to be there when they come or im
Violating the law. Never found which one im violating. Not been on paper for over 29 years. Federal in home state. Just probation (ended 25 years ago) and no public list until i came here 6 years ago. I timed out of my homestate registry.
Why do i need to be home? I travel
Monthly to my home state for les than 3 days at a time and am told i need to re register each time now. Leave the return date open ended and come in when i arrive back. Now just seems like they make it up as they go along.
JM
if you are not a ward of the State/Federal/Territorial/Indian Tribal Governments you need ever to sign anything…
never sign anything at anytime…even at registration times…just give them a call let them know you are alive as the local coroner has not signed your death certificate……appearing in person is false arrest……email them too…it is time and date stamped with geo location of your IP address…generally
let their IT department figure that out
Bon Appetite
never appear in person!
Trying to get off the list so dunno how i feel about that. I show up every month for my travel put of state but they keep changing the rules on coming back. I cant leave during my registration month because they say i need to fly back and register that month. Really cant figure any of this out
JM
Don’t worry my friend, the courts have ruled NONE of this is punishment so that should make you feel ton’s better about what you/we are going through. Also remember, judges are gods and can command you to do anything they rule and send you to the fiery pits of prison.
Also in many states, like here in Florida, we are blessed with being on the registry for life with nary a chance to ever be removed. Additionally, the suffering and inconvenience our families go through with us, is just a bonus.
We should be celebrating. We created 1000’s of extra law enforcement jobs. Of course, while those officers/deputies are wasting time checking on the billions of non-compliant registrants, 1000’s of crimes are not being investigated due to a shortage of qualified applicants. REALLY.
This would be all laughable if it was a movie, and yet, it is somehow real life. Is God making us do like Moses did and wander through the wilderness for 40 years? Some of us will be dead by then.
They are, as trained to do, lying to you. Ask the to cute the law, rule ir statute that compels your complance, to be home at all time in case they decide to show up and to verify, sign and date, or answer, and registry Questions. They will not respond except to come up with more lies. Get their name and badge numbers an file an Internal Affairs Complaint. It worked for me.
David
The deputy who checks on me “NOT” on probation, comes, if I am not home, he puts a sex offender flyer on our front door, even if another family member is there.
If he comes back again and I am not home, he goes to neighbors to ask if they had seen me. When he finally finds me home, he tells me “After 3 times of not being home, I will issue a warrant for your arrest for non-compliance”. WTF???????? Sounds like damn probation to me.
So im back to the question: can they do all this to me if im not around. And why do i have to fly back from where i am to florida for that second registration
JM
I no longer leave Florida because of the “unknowns” so in that instant, I have no useful information. But like you, my charges are from more than 3 decades ago. I am almost 60 and still putting up with crap from my late 20’s?
How should anyone pay for something over and over again when you have done your time. I mean HELL, why not just sentence us all to life in prison if that is their goal. Are they pissed that at the time we could not be given life so they are sentencing us to the next best thing? Lifetime registration.
Maybe every registered person in Florida should arrive at the state capitol and all of us can chain ourselves to the pillars and when we run out of room, we can handcuff ourselves to each other. Make a human chain. The last straw was when the deputy yelled at my Mom because she told the deputy I am not on probation so she doesn’t have to tell him when I will be home.
Ok so im ready to apply to get off this nightmare. I was released from registering in my home state two years ago (it was a federal) 26 years ago. Not sure what lawyer has had success on this if any but ive read here some have. Is there a group that does these?
JM
This is who everyone is telling me is really good and has gotten several off Florida Registry. But I heard he is mega expensive.
This is from FAC website list of attorneys
Ron M. Kleiner, ESQ
South Florida Attorney