India and Jamaica denying entry to registered sex offenders
Registrant Travel Action Group (http://registranttag.org) has updated it’s travel matrix to unfortunately reflect India and Jamaica as countries that are denying entry to individuals registered as sex offenders.
The link to their travel matrix can be found below.
forien marriage and the SO/RSO/exposto factor
you go and marry a forien national you apply for a visa and yes denied as well now t dont matter
I have this video that will Interest some people it is heart breaking and Painful a bit explicit but on the Mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2lv9dYpN8k
Part of FAC’s mission is to help registrants comply with state and Federal law. And there may be some confusion on this discussion topic.
It’s true that Americans punished for a past sex crime against children, are not required to notify the country to which they are traveling, of their background, unless of course it’s part of a visa application or some law in the receiving country that I’m unaware of.
They ARE required to notify U.S. or state authorities, at least 21 days prior to international travel. And yes, that information typically is transmitted to the receiving country via Interpol. And different countries treat this information differently. We are learning over time, which countries are not allowing entry, versus those countries that disregard the notification as American silliness and let you in. Either way, U.S. courts have not yet held that notification requirements are the same as denying the right to travel.
A friend of mine and I decided to surprise our husbands for Christmas on a trip to Jamaica, my friend husband is a registered sex offender for over 21 years, no restriction or probation he gave the authority the relevant notice and jtebary they have him permission to leave, when we got to Jamaica that’s when we discovered he wasn’t allowed to enter the country…why wasn’t this information shared at the sheriff office when he rd them his travel plans, why can’t they provide a list of countries that doesn’t accept sex offenders and spare people the humility….
They will claim they don’t prevent registrants from traveling there – they only send “notice” that they are coming and its up to the country to accept or deny them.
Law enforcement does not have such a list, but RTAG does.
What is RTAG?
Registrant travel action group.
I would have loved to know as well. I have cruised twice to Jamaica. The first time 10 years ago they let me in. I took my son as a graduation present and was called down to the security room and informed I was denied access. Not the best graduation present. It was my 3rd cruise while RSO first time being denied disembarking. The time on the ship was amazing and quiet.
To clarify the second time 10 years later I took my son as a graduation present when I was denied. They atleast were very polite about it.
Greetings
never alert the country your going to…never book in advance trust me on this book on friday after 3pm then fly that day Angel watch takes 48 hrs to catch up with you and If you book on a friday or fly saturday morning they will not catch up iuntil monday late or Tuesday by then it is to late to give notice and they wont bother to it
Huh? You have to tell them 21 days in advance. How are you able to leave in less than 48 hrs?
Dont we have a protected right to travel? Isnt it provided in the constitution? Doesnt this program inherently violate that right? Our convictions and served time should stay behind in the file folders of our state: not follow us or in this case get there before we do….
you must be new to this OUR GOVERMENT DONT GIVE A SHIT
AS FOR THE 1974 PRIVACY ACT WHAT IS THAT…
angel watch center Flags all sex offenders traveling to other countries
as for our convictions never put into a folder just exploited even more
there is no ex posto factor what you did 30 yrs ago and was convicted of a sex offence even if your not convicted our goverment will keep finding way to screw you even more you will pay for that 30old crime the rest of your life with new rules with now the scatlet letter
suck it up butter cup this is just the beginning of a long nightmare for you and until we can find the right people to fight for stopping this BS it is just going to get worse
Please get ahold of me, I need your help if possible- my email is Hankhill7206@yahoo.com
you do not alert the country you are going to!!! No law says you have too
No, you don’t alert anyone. They alert them when you report 21 days in advance of your departure.
Cant you be arrested if you dont give the notice
Depends on the State you are registered in. For example if you live in Georgia you do not have to tell them you are leaving the US.
My son messed up and had (consensual) sex with an underage girl (21 and 15). He confessed but hasn’t gone to court yet but he will in several months. Essentially, here in Alabama (as well as Florida I guess) have the worst SO laws in the world. I know the local SO officer and he told me over 80% of the RSOs he deals with are homeless or have no job. I hate for my son, who had a full time job and no criminal history to become a deadbeat or now have to become a criminal to survive. A lawyer told me there is no getting around the RSO process, it is a lifelong punishment, especially with the Big Red SO Star on your driver’s license. I am trying to find somewhere where he can move, whether out of state or to another country so he can better survive. He can never have a family in Alabama, since Alabama law restricts living with your own kids if your offense involved a person under 16 years of age. Any states or countries he may can start his life over in, ideas before he goes to court?
Thanks..
Fred – he should focus on his criminal case first. Who knows what will be the state of the law anywhere when he gets out.
Based on my research, Georgia and Oregon offer registrants from other states a chance to come off of the list after 10 years. Don’t visit FL; get on the list here even as a visitor they will not take you off when gone. If there’s any way to beat the case before registration DO IT.
What research?
As a visitor not on parole or probation, how does Florida know to put you on a list
Utah has some of the better laws when it comes to sex offenders and still trying to have a normal life.
I went to Jamaica in February of 2018 I am a RSO. I did not get denied.
Were you given a hard time at all? No problems?
No Problems treated like a normal vacationer
Did you give a 21 day notice?
No, I find that some people run in to problems when you give countries a heads up they may say yes or not respond and reject you upon landing. Its a expensive risk but if you want to travel you have to take a chance and book it.
I have travel quite a bit in the last five years, before 2017 I have been to Beijing, china you have to apply for a visa, you will know if you can travel there or not I did not give them any information about my legal past. Ive visited Paris France, UK, Amsterdam, hong kong, Dominican republic (2010), Jamaica, Bangkok, Seychelles, and Kenya and Dubai.
IN 2018 after the change in Passport regulations, I did not have to change my passport to have it marked as SO, i dont know how if that changes the circumstances to the places Ive visited. My case was not involved with minors. In 2018 Ive traveled to the Maldives, Jamaica, and QATAR with out any problems. If you have a hard time finding a place to travel I hear that Africa Islands are pretty trouble free I know its expensive to go there but thats how it crumbles.
Mexico rejected me and Panama After those incidents Ive decided to avoid south America. I don’t get stopped for Reentry in Atlanta, I dont know why but it makes getting home a lot easier if i cant get a direct flight. I hope this helps!
Atlanta is the busiest airport in the world, they are looking for terrorist, not innocent registrants.
What kind of conviction do you have specifically and from what state? How do you travel with the 21 day notice restriction? So Mexico and Panama did not let you enter? How did they find out? Can you please provide details of how it went down in Mexico and Panama?
Thanks,
R.
Cant you be arrested if you dont give the 21 day notice.
Where have you traveled recently? Don’t you have to give your state a 21 day advance notice?
Mike, Did you report your travels to your local jurisdiction? I also have traveled out of the county many times since being a RSO but this is he first time they asked me for my passport no. I’m not on parole or probation but he did say he had to send something in. Your thoughts…
Where have you traveled in the past year and what were your experiences?
Did you report 21 days before you left? What was your original offense that you register for? First time traveling internationally?
So what all did you have to do I just sent off for my passport and I spoke to the counselor of Jamaica and they wanted me to write a letter to give permission to go
Follow the requirements that Jamaica advises.
Jamaica has been turning back registrants when they receive Green Notices from the US
West Virginia isn’t too bad. My step brother has the same charge he took a plea deal without realizing it screwed him 40yrs probation but has a wife and 4 kids he lives with plus 2 jobs. Hope for the best for your son and make sure he reads all deals completely.
Really doesn’t matter if he reads the deal or even what it actually states because as we have all come to find out it is not binding…the government can change the agreed upon conditions anytime they wish!
Plea bargains are not for our benefit but for the government’s benefit…an easy win for them! We get screwed either way…I wish I have known then what I know today and I would have gone to court – fought – and won!
Actually I doubt they would have even gone to court given that I was innocent but I was intimidated and give piss poor legal advice from a since disbarred Florida lawyer!
Lee
Zero problems treated like a normal vacationer
Where did you go
I would encourage him to fight for the shortest probation. That he can get, once he’s off probation he can actually move otherwise he’s gonna be stuck in Alabama.
Oregon and Washington have no restrictions for sex offenders once off probation plus level one offenders are not publicly listed.
I need to know can someone who was charged with a sex offence go to Jamaica ; high commission embassy in Ottawa says yes my brother can go as long as he doesn’t have pending warrants or on probation but other people say no, which is it
have his attorney since it was a small age difference deviate. and ask if he can use the Romeo Julliet case law from florida now if he can then he will be able to petition to be removed under that law
now If the attorney says he cant he bullshit..as Mark lunsfords son yes Jessica law was busted as well out of Ohio they used the case laws of Florida romeo juliet
How did your son’s case turn out?
Tell him to look at Guatemala or Paraguay. Paraguay has one of the easiest permanent residence requirements $5,000 down into a local bank. Take a look at Nomad Capitalist youtube he has great information on easiest countries for second passports, Europe is really more relaxed than most other places when it comes to the registry laws. I will be departing the US myself soon, there’s no chance i could have a normal life here.
Marrying a foreign national sometimes enables a person to acquire foreign citizenship.
If I were a sex offender I would never come back to the US.
Is the Bahamas safe has anyone been turned away from there
So far, so good on Bahamas!
Just to add onto the Bahamas question. I was at an event recently where they were promoting the Bahamas. I was able to ask an immigration official from the Bahamas about the SO restrictions of coming into the country. My sentence was 20 years ago and I’ve been off of probation for 10 of those years. I was very direct about my offense, sentence and time post-completion. The response of the immigration official from the Bahamas was actually one of stunned amazement. He was completely perplexed why this was even remotely an issue. So it’s not eve a question in my mind that I would have any difficulty in gaining access for vacation to the Bahamas.
Thank you Brian
Some of the police at the Brussels airport who pulled me aside and searched my luggage, etc. in 2013 after the Agnel Watch thing started were actually shocked that information such as our SOR could be made public. Strictly against the law over there, even in the few places that have registries. In a t least a couple of countries, Germany and Spain, IIRC, a lifetime SOR is considered to be a violation of human rights. But that doesn’t always mean anything. The majority of us would have been removed from the sex offender registry in the UK 5 years after our conviction but they still won’t let us in.
I have a trip planned to go to the Bahamas at the end of this month with a gf. Currently on probation. I was told by my PO I need to have a written statement from a consultant or embassy stating I can go.
I called Washington Embassy and they said there is a person that wasn’t in today I need to talk to in order to send i’m my information whether it will be approved or not…
I am worried about doing this. Everyone on these forums just seems to go and there doesn’t seem to be a issue. I told my officer I received a verbal confirmation…
You think I should continue on my trip without sending my information to the embassy? I recall asking a year ago and they said the same thing but people have been going with no problem on these forums. Not sure if they asked the embassy or not.
This requirement is just a requirement of your PO. There is no such requirement in IML. If your PO requires it, you might want to ask where from where he’s taking this requirement.
Daniel,
Please ask your PO where she is getting this information from. This is how many of us are being denied into countries, from registrants going to far “above and beyond”, although IML is also part of the reason.
Just like the cruises, where Carnival decided to ban registrants. One of the reasons that made them do this is registrants calling the cruise line asking if sex offenders can cruise on the line.
Before sending anything to the Embassy, I would ask your PO where that is in writing, what law of your state says that this is a requirement. POs just cant make up there own rules, especially when it comes to traveling internationally. She’s only allowed to say if you can or cannot go, but this should have nothing to do with sending anything to another Country’s Embassy as a requirement, unless it is your State’s law. They have to follow the law.
Just my two cents
Beware of Caymen Islands
They will hunt you down bv at hotel and question you and revoke your stay as bd send you home. There is no discussion.
This law has gotten out of control and needs to be looked at for people with minor offensed.