When a Sex Offender Comes to Visit
Information for Sex Offenders
A new study by Shawn M. Rolfe, Doctoral candidate at the University of Louisville, helps identify some of the requirements each individual state has when a registered sex offender travels there.
A chart contained in the study provides a useful reference.
Suppose I want to move to Las Vegas, are there any required things for me to do?
yes – you must notify FL you are leaving and then register in NV
All states require you to notify them you are moving. However when visiting you shouldnt have to notify anyone. In Virginia, go on vacation all you want. No need to tell anyone unless going overseas.
I went to Virginia Beach a couple of weeks ago for a symposium for Aerospace Maintenance Professionals. I was pleasantly pleased to see that their distance restrictions of 100 feet include the word ‘loitering’. One can buy groceries, get a haircut, eat a meal, etc. across the street from a school and as long as it’s legit business, no problem. In Brevard County Florida buying groceries or dining or buying car parts, etc. across the street from a tennis court or playground will get an RSO arrested…and the distance restriction is 1000 feet. I have to travel 35 miles one way just to get a haircut. I used to live in Virginia…my offense was there…but I moved to Florida to help my mother and ailing father. The way Florida treats one, you would think I had had a rape and pillage rampage in Florida. I like living in Florida, have good neighbors, and made many friends but the bureaucracy in Florida is out of control.
In Virginia we RSO are not bothered nor targeted by police. I once called police and they had no idea my apartment complex was full of RSOs.
I went to Virginia Beach in April for my high school reunion. Probation in Florida wanted me to check in with law enforcement when I got there, so I did. They didn’t know what to do with me. After about 20 minutes of phone calls they had me fill out some paper and got my finger prints. On the way out they wished me a good reunion.
As long as you werent on school property you are fine. Virginia law enforcement could careless what you do as long as you arent breaking the law. I go to parks, walk in front of schools, and go to movies without problem.
If I didn’t love it so much here in Florida you could tempt me to move back to Virginia, however, a day or two of ‘playing in the traffic’ in Virginia Beach brings me back to my senses. I just hope that common sense will find a strong hold eventually in Florida and our ‘do-gooder’ politicians will come to realize that they are doing far more damage than good.
All SO laws are based on a lie proven so far by 10 different state run research.
or so they say Charles Mock…
SCOTUS has ruled that law enforcement can LIE to fake an arrest.
They know, they are just playing their ignorance card–(they “play” ignorant all to well)
I will say that’s mostly true, however, I work at a restaurant and we have to call them all the time and never once did they say or do anything that would put us off. The department where I live is very community oriented policing. They’re very approachable and friendly. I’m not saying some arent ignorant, always a few, but by and large I’ve got trust in them. 3 years and not once pulled over cuz I’m registered and so are my vehicles.
Its complicated and a complex process. First off the state you are leaving loses jurisdiction of your case and yourself as a registered sex offender. In Florida you have 24 hrs to give notice of new address once you have established new residency. Nevada will have laws requiring registrants from outgoing states to register. Your case will be reviewed in the new state and you must follow the guidelines for Registration. In the case of Nevada the restrictions could be even harsher than the state you are leaving. Depends on your crime.. be smart, stay compliant.
As a US citizen and retired military member, whenever I travel I will stay wherever I damn well please. This has gone well beyond ridiculous.
Capt. As former military myself I put myself in harms way to defend the rights of the same people who keep trying to take mine away I agree with you I will go where I damn well please and I may even sleep there I’m over this crap.
It comes to a point in life that we have to say ‘enough is enough’ to this bureaucratic stupidity.
Oh, that’s rich. Notice how the idiot tries to make a connection between RSO’s and ‘tourist destinations’, which goes hand-in-hand with the idiotic IML and passport scheme. Next, RSO’s will have to obtain a domestic passport to travel from city to city, county to county and state to state because, hey, they might be visiting or just passing through a tourist destination. I can see the check points, like toll booths, being erected all across the land of the free. “Papers, please.” Don’t be fooled, this bumbling moron chose his words carefully and has an ulterior motive with this hit piece:
“Additionally, states may experience an increased financial burden due
to the manpower needed to enforce their state’s nonresident sex offender laws, especially in areas that are known tourist destinations.”
Glad to see that someone is taking a survey of this. Every time I travel I have to allot about 3-4 hrs sometime beforehand to pore over every state/county/city statute and ordinance I can find to try and make sure my travel doesn’t involve a trip to the local bed and breakfast.
Lots of the responses in here from the states irked me, but this one….just….I dunno…am I misreading this?
“As it was simply put by one of the state’s registration representatives, “If a registrant is stopped by a law enforcement agency, that officer has full discretion to arrest the registrant regardless of whether they knew the laws or is within the allotted number of days to register in that state.””
The part about ‘…is within the allotted number of days…’ sorta sound like whatever this state is, they can just pick you up for being an out of state offender? I’m failing to understand what they could charge you with. Please someone tell me I’m misunderstanding this.
Key Word-Compliance
Read your own State Statute or Laws as they refer to your crime and restrictions. You will need to know what to do first in the state you reside and then the state you are traveling to. In Florida you must fill out the travel registry. In some states a visiting RSO must register with the Sheriff of the county or city you are visiting. All states have different laws. If you choose to ignore these laws you could be arrested for a Violation of Sex Offender Laws. This all sounds like a horrible intrusion on your civil rights but its worth it to stay within each State’s laws of compliance.
JEV-True Confessions
Fact checking Shawn Rolfe’s
I was excited that Rolfe took the time to do the research. I find this helpful and appreciate his time and efforts.
As a registrant who recently traveled through several “States” I spent months researching the locations I would be staying.
One error I discovered on this article is the State of New Mexico. I contacted the NM Sorna Coordinator and also consulted with attorney Barry Porter, and both confirmed the number of “free” days in NM is 5 business days. Rolfe states it is 10 or 30… I don’t know what he is referring to.
Hawaii is correct however as I was just there and the State Sorna website and an attorney both confirm it is 10 days.
Be safe people and verify for yourselves. Verify every detail of table No. 2 if it applies to you. Your freedom is worth the effort.
If any of you have info on any other States, especially Oregon, would you please reply to my post?
May the Lord bless and protect you; may the Lord’s face radiate with joy because of you; may he be gracious to you, show you his favor, and give you his peace. Numbers 6:24-26
Absolutely good advice. Verify verify verify.
Also keep in mind that this is a slice of info in time, and may change somewhat at the end of each state’s legislative session. Always check before you go.
Bureaucratic bullshit or not, I’ll take a few hours or days of inconvenience over a 5 yr felony sentence.
At what point are we going to quit being a victim to these unconstitutional, ‘luni bin’ laws and be willing to say that enough is enough? Many of the churches in Germany during the Nazi reign of terror agreed to remove crosses and replace them with the ‘twisted cross’ to avoid Nazi persecution. They even agreed to identify and turn over Jews. Churches behind the ‘Iron Curtain’ agreed to turn in members who who not take allegiance to the masters in Moscow. These laws that are made by power grabbing bureaucrats are designed to reduce certain law abiding citizens to the level of slaves…’Yes sir, yes sir, three bags full…whatever you say’. We need to get to the point that we do not fear these efforts to destroy certain lives and families. As a group RSO’s need to take a stand. If we evaluate most of the problems this nation has today, we would find that most are government generated.
The chart lists Nebraska as having statewide residency restrictions, but the restrictions are local and not statewide.
Matthew, do the other requirements in Table 2 in the Rolfe article match up with your knowledge of Nebraska SORNA? How many days are “free” for a visitor?
Thanks!
http://www.waspc.org/assets/SexOffenders/state%20rso%20registration%20requirements%2008.15.docx
@ Jake what are u looking for? AZ Is 10 days to report in if you are coming here or going to move to a different county with in the State. If you move with in the county then it is 72 hours. If you do not have sexual predator or crime against a child. The 1000 foot law does not apply to you. I have neither but I wont push my luck by moving near schools, etc I report in once a year unless I move. Then It is a trip to sheriff office and D.M.V . I pay 10.00 for I.D. once a year. They send out papers you send it back. A word of caution….. If you tell them u live somewhere You better be there. A sex crime detective drives and comes by to see you. But that is it. I been here for 7 years now and No problems. also I got the hell out of Florida the day they cut me lose from Conditional release
OK I’m royally confused. If I’m not staying in another state for more than it seems 3-5 days then none of this matters anyway.
So its not just about stature where you come from its whwre you go. You can comply in homestate but violate visiting state.
Do you people actually follow these asinine ‘laws’ setup by incompetent politicians that have never even researched what the Hell They Are Passing? The Fear Machine is strong in this country isn’t it? The most Patriotic and Humane thing you can do is ignore this stupidity, travel freely and stay out of trouble. When they start tracking and requiring registration of Violent people, gang members, etc. (groups that actually pose a serious public safety threat) maybe THEN we can contemplate listening to these commonsense-less laws. Remember: the people who pass these laws generally have ZERO knowledge of recidivism rates etc., information that actually matters. They pass laws to emotionally appease the public, the same public which is misguided with good intentions.
We should follow the laws. Failing to do so brings 5 years in prison.
All I can say is “AMEN”.
How are they going to know if you stay 5 days or 10 days? What triggers them checking into where and how long your going to a location?
Unlikely they would know unless someone reported it or they had a reason to investigate.
Or if youre not home on a spotcheck and theyre told youre out of town. Dont take the risk not worth it. I gave up on any hope of freedom to move around. Never seen inside of ancell nor know what its like on probation but im not gonna take that chance especially in this forsaken state…
Even most compliance offices are ignorant. Talk to one person on any given day about what the requirements are then talk to someone else the day after and you’re likely to get a different response.
Pretty hard to stay compliant when restrictions change on an almost daily basis, LE often isn’t aware and can pretty much arrest any SO on an as-felt-like-it basis.
Yup. And LEO couldn’t get away with that kind of ignorance with decent white collar criminals. But the pariahs of society (like me) get no political power whatsoever, even from highly educated judges – we’re always viewed as guilty right up front. Arrest first, ask questions later.
This is very very true, which means it is very important that WE stay aware of what the law says that we are to do. Read the statutes and take the time to make sure that you are reading them and understanding them (I realize this can be a bit of a hurdle because of the language. It is time and effort well spent).
Asking an LEO to explain them to you is a good way to hear what that particular LEO wishes the law was, but not so good for getting an accurate answer.
Most cops are power tripping “know it alls” that aren’t mentally capable being informed by a more educated person of the proper application of a law or statute. It messes with their gun toting, badge flaunting ego. “No, Sir, the proper application of that statute is because of ” will probably get you arrested and you’ll sort it out from jail or bod; because every perceived misstep of SORNA violation is a felony.
Texas used to be a bit weird in that you only had to register if you were going to be spending more than 48 hours in one location (county?address?) three or more times in one 30 day period. It made the lives of periodic business visitors, etc. a bit easier because unless you ran up against the longer time period like the 7-10 days in a row or whatever it was, you essentially got a “reboot” fairly often. I am not sure if it is still that way. A number of states in recent years, Florida included, cut the time to register WAY down. Many used to be like 10 or 14 days in one one and a total of 30 for one year or even 5 and 14. 5 per “month” with each address counting as a new one would have been fine for tourists in Florida, but no more. Hell, before Angel watch, if you were leaving the country for less than 5 nights, you didn’t even have to fill any paperwork out unless you were on probation. It was a good idea to let hem know, but they really didn’t make a record. I made like 5 short business trips to Europe and 3 to Mexico before they started telling them that we were coming. I made 3 long ones to Europe from 2005-2007 and only had to tell the Sherriffs office. No FDLE, no DHS. the first time I ran into the Angel Watch thing was in 2013 and then, DHS was pulling names off of the passenger manifests of the airline check-in in the US and sending by fax or e-mail to your destination, not getting it from FDLE.
Probably the worse day of our lives and the scariest when the guy that my son has had to stay with took all of his stuff and put it outside of their apartment and then changed the locks on the doors all because we won’t pay the money he wants for rent. First of all there are 3 roommates living there and it should be fairly split up 3 ways but this guy is making the other 2 each pay half and this makes it so this guy ends up staying there at no cost to himself. This guy goes against what any reasonable person would conscionably pay and in my opinion he borders on the line, if not crossed it, of extortion because he threatens to kick them out if they don’t pay. He knew going in that my son couldn’t afford what he was asking and we can’t get my son transferred to Ohio because my lovely state won’t let him live with us because we have our granddaughter that lives in the home and my parents have a in-home daycare within a 1,000 feet. This is crazy and insane that my son nearly ended up homeless and on the streets because of another offender taking advantage and trying to manipulate a way to scam us out of money to pay for his life of luxury and pay his bills. Thank the Lord that LEO were called in and they told this guy that he had no right to do what he did to our son and that he has to go through the courts if he wants our son out. So, while I am 1,100 miles away and feeling helpless my son was able to get permission from his PO to stay with my brother for the night and return to the apartment that he was in and live in a hostile environment. Instead of my son getting the proper treatment of what he needs for his finally diagnosed bi-polar he is subjected to this and our family has been turned upside down. I can’t go one week without having to deal with something. How is this constitutional for anyone? Why do I feel like my rights are being violated and not just my son’s? Where is my family’s right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Where is my son’s right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? This whole registry is cruel and I mean really cruel and unusual punishment not just to those on the registry but to those that are close to them. I love my son with all my heart and there is nothing that I wouldn’t do for him but I can’t keep doing this day in and day out. Something has to give. The illegal sex sting operations need to stop and those that pose a threat to society need to be taken off the registry and be allowed to rehabilitate back into society. The truth needs to be exposed and people need to be educated on the facts of how these men get on the registry to begin with. Sorry for the book, I am just frustrated and needed to vent. Don’t mean to offend anyone. My heart is broken as a parent…
I flew to PA from FL to drive my brother and Sister-in-law back to FL in their Motorhome. I checked in with FL and told them what I was doing and upon arriving to PA was to check in with PA. I left on a Friday afternoon at 5:45PM and arrived in PA at 12:00 AM. My son picked me up at the airport and at 2:00 AM arrived at my brother’s home. At 10:00 AM I went to the PA State Police barracks and checked in and just before I got there they received the fax from FL. I told them I was leaving PA to drive back to FL as soon as I left the barracks. The officer that spoke to me said that since I would not be in PA for more than 48 hours there was no need to check in. Of course I told him that it didn’t matter I was following what FL told me to do.
The officer was most polite and respectful and gave me his name and contact info and when I checked in on Monday gave FL the info so they could check that I was telling them the truth about my actions.
Now that was ridiculous to go through all of that just to drive my brother back to Florida since I wasn’t gone that long. But I will follow the rules no matter how ridiculous I think they are.
I go to PA during the summer and stay with my brother for approximately 4 weeks every year and when I check in to PA they do not even register me. they just want to know where I am staying and as long as it is not more than 30 days it is all good. Then when I leave to come back to FL I just go to the barracks and tell them that I am leaving and that is it.
Are you on probation?
If you are on probation you have to get a travel permit to attend your own funeral or you will be violated in your casket.
No I never was and have been here since 2011 at the place I purchased in Florida.
I lost my Father-in-law in March. We were Snow birds for 5 years after my wife passed and in that five years there were three times even though I followed all the rules PA tried to say I was non compliant on three different occasions after checking out and returning to FL.
It was kind of upsetting knowing that since they actually threatened me with arrest.
Florida stood behind me on those occasions and I kept all of my paperwork from PA and FL to prove that I was compliant.
Most important to keep all of that paperwork just in case.
I did my 10 years of registry and am no longer on megans list can I buy a motorhome and just travel around
You need to check what each states requirement is. You may be good in yours but not in another. Check effective dates of their laws now the complication is that its not just state rules its each municipality. Meagans list is irrelevant as the new laws supercede in each area. The law was made for uniform compliance but never stopped them from getting deeper e.g. you need to register if you even touch florida within 48 hours for an aggrigate of 5 days ever . And just for stopping by youre on for life. You literally run the chance of javing to get on dozens of registries which is what sucks about this system.
Not 100% true. Many states if you show up there for more than a few days (or total days per year even If in small chunks) require you to register. They might not catch you but if you get a ticket you might be screwed and end up on their registry for life (even after you leave) and then when you return home it would be a “transfer” which might put you back on at home too.
Seen it happen. Even if you somehow expunged it, and we know you didn’t since almost no one can or does.
Just be smart man.
I have lived in 7 other states after my charge in Fla. Every state sucked and had rules and no one knows if Florida’s no defense clause so ridicule sux when getting a job or home. But thankfully CALIFORNA refused to recognize Florida’s charge against me and it was so apparent the head of Justice department called me, my cell to tell me what crap florida had erroneously put me under and removed my Registration requirements. Screw Florida if anyone hears of a cry wolf law going retro in floridat me know I miss home.
Every person all over the country and the world that is ever been convicted of any crime whether it’s mine or are they now call you a sex offender we need to get all our families all our friends and everyone that knows something not to go to Texas are go to Florida for vacations because now if you’re there for three days or more they put you on the national list for life as a sex offender if everybody stops going there and everybody keeps telling Florida what’s happening that’s gonna cost them a lot of money and I guarantee you without a doubt they’ll fix it and finally act like human beings especially for people who are now called sex offenders just because they had sex with Hey girlfriend that they been dating forever and then they turn 18 in the mother or father so pissed off they bring charges against them are people that P in a park or on the wall close to a school in the middle of night now they are sex offender plus there’s a lot of women who have been attacked and the case became a he said she said and now they are now sex offenders after the fact, Due to the laws changing which is a double jeopardy problem!!😡😱😥
This thing about the registry list doesn’t hurt people is a complete line of BS my wife is lost jobs wouldn’t get hired housing issues and has affected me and my family and I love Florida but now we can’t vacation there because if you’re there for more than three days you’re now sex offender we all need to get pissed off, mad and stand up and start doing something it’s criminal how Florida is treating those people who I can’t find a home and they’re living under bridges or out in the woods!!
Since when did they change it to 3? I just looked at law and it clearly states 5 days aggregate.
Effective July 1, 2018
Well guess who WON’T be visiting Florida EVER now!! Thank you for the update.
Supposed to have come up for a vote within the last 2 months!
So I assume it went thru, but 3 or 5 days is ridiculous !
Most vacations for most people is 7 days!
So can you visit for 3 days ? Is this per year?
yes – same location UNDER 3 days without registering.
Be careful Florida law states must register within 48 hours of establishing temporary residence.
Is the law now 5 days or is it 3 days that you dont have to register as an offender? And is it made public if you do
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If you gonna live in Florida, I’m sure its 48 hours and yes its public. If visiting more than 2 days, then you also have to register in 48 hours.
Thank you for the info not gonna go now we were gonna visit my dad w the kids but it will be more then 3 days for Thanksgiving but forget it now
3, at any one address. And you must register it within the first 48 hours.
and remember it’s 3 days IN THE AGGREGATE during any year!
When you travel out of state for more than 3 days, do you have to change city/area you travel to or can you just change the address where you are staying. For example, can my son stay with his grandmother for 3 days and then stay with his uncle for 3 days in the same town, but different addresses?
Yes for TWO days, NOT THREE! Three or more days trigger registration.
registration where??? in the state I am visiting??? Their laws say RSOs can visit for up to a week without registering in their state. Please explain. Thanks!
Follow the laws of the state you are visiting and the state in which you are required to register.
Can you quote the statute that says this. I need a source!
He will have to register both addresses within 48 hours of establishing a temporary residence.
True, defined as three or more days. So if after 48 he has not registered it, he has another 24 hours in which he can dwell there during that calendar year and that’s it til next year.
Unless they only stay 2 days at each address: then there is no requirement correct?
Weird thing is is the inconsistancy: went to vcso to register a three day travel. Leave day 1 return day 3. Was told i did not need to and this wasnt the first time. Each time i got a signed business card that we spoke and my dates were given. I ask them to refer the law and i get the same. Sometimes ive had to literally ask for them to at least update the l.e. Viewable screen.
If someone only stays 2 days at each residence the have no requirement to register it
What is the requirement?? I called sheriffs Dept and they said within HOURS !!!!they were nasty.
Florida is nasty!! 48 hours of establishing temporary residence. Here in Virginia you have 72 hours AND they only do annual compliance checks.
I agree My wife was accused falsely by the police department and the state attorney. My wife her oldest daughter who was 13 at the time was sexual assaulted by the young man When my wife called the cops few days later after she found out The young man mom had already called the cops told them my wife rape her son at the park my wife never went to a park and have all the proof The cops did not wanted to hear it. So my wife was accused and lie by the police and
by the young man and his mother. My wife has pass every polygraph that was given to her and theirs was NO DNA found the state attorney pick the case up and force my wife to lie or she would send her to prison for 45 years for sexual battery when the paper said there was NO sexual contact the boy even admitted the truth the mother lied to the cops and to my wife public defender, The mother though she was going to get money out of the whole deal when she found out she wasn’t she wasn’t too happy about it so she drop it the kid or the mother never showed up to court So NO kid No witness No DNA Nothing only hear say!!! The state Attorney pick it up and play dirty and lied, if my wife and i had MONEY she wouldn’t be on this crap or be registered none of this would have happen. This has ruin our lives so much it kept her from doing things with her kids and family she isn’t allowed to take them to games or birthday party or do anything with them, It took a long time for my wife to come out of the house even go grocery shopping she is always depressed unhappy stress out she always talking about living in fear she always asking me are they going to come and take her away and that she never going to see her kids or me again.This is what the STATE,COURT ,COPS,young man family DID to my WIFE…She doesn’t feel safe in her own home.They missed up her mind bad waking up with nightmares always thinking someone looking at her if they are she think they work for the cops. being registered isn’t fun it puts you on edge you can NEVER be too comfortable.All we are doing right now is surviving it really hurts us physically, mentally, financially emotionally . She always getting letters from different man from different states.Saying nasty stuff to her she hasn’t gotten any letters lately i hope it stays that way She would give the letters to her lawyers she has now. She would tell her PO about it and they do nothing but take notes. She doesn’t have any privately her information is online so anyone can come to our house. She always scared going to see her PO every month praying she would make it out. always telling me she feels like she is being watch. MY wife is a Good person.She wouldn’t hurt a fly,My wife is not the same Person anymore she stays to her self i would hear her cry at every night.She would NEVER hurt anyone kids. The state attorney tried to have her kids taken from her one day at court but The State attorney didn’t win the judge said theirs no hard evidence towards my wife to have her kids taken from her.Crazy if my wife did a committed a crime why would you let her kids live with her if theirs no evidence why have her on it? My wife been through a lot before i met her and now she gone through more and only god him self know the answer to that. But right now i want this storm in her life to end i want us to be able to live and be free and be able visit others states with out reliving this all over again. My wife is INNOCENTS ,They got her for hear say!! believe it or not. it was the state idea to get her for hear say.I didn’t know that could hold up in court. I guess in Florida anything can. it was the state way to have her be put on probation my wife plea out she was force too by the state attorney she ask for a trail but the state refuse it and told her she would send to prison for 45 years and never see her kids again. MY Wife never been in trouble with the law has a clear record.My wife didn’t have a choice so she plea out this was her way for her to fight This was the state way to take money from my wife when at the time she was homeless and had no job and knowing she was innocent. What do we do to get her name cleared from being registered..?? With all do respect my wife lost all her trust and respect in the courts,Police. They wasn’t there for her they didn’t care about her feelings or wanted to hear the truth They let my wife down.Took all her right away she standing there all alone in the court room crying. When all she was doing was protecting her daughter. The night when she was being questions they refuse her to have someone to sign for her my wife is deaf in both ears. She read lips my wife was on medicine for depressions and anxiety she took some that night before she went to her mother house everything was so Clouded she couldn’t understand anything they were saying to her. My wife mind was blank. All her rights and civil rights was violated. The detective didn’t read my wife her Miranda rights before cuffing her. She requested a lawyer and they turn her down,My wife was railroaded that night. All we want is for all this nightmare to be over she shouldn’t have NEVER been registered in the first place. Sex offender are for real sex offender not the ones who never done anything wrong That are innocent.
I forgot to mention the state gave my wife 13 years. 2 year house arrest and 11 year probation. she already done 5 half years already. she on probation now her house arrest is over she been good the whole time no problems. WE are ready to have this part of this storm to be over. all her fines payed in full everything. now waiting to be off to live again.
All it take one person to lie about you and your doom forever. They don’t need proof to prove your innocently. This is the kind of world we live in there are so many innocent people are being registered everyday for the dumbest crap and lies there are innocent people going to prison for the rest of there life for stuff they never did. WHY?? TEENS are always lying about people to have there life ruin humility by the public. Parents allowed there teens 15 or 16 date 20 plus year old and then call the cops on them if they upset them they ruin there life.
All it takes is the point of a finger and you are guilty weather you are or not. There is no such thing as innocent until proven guilty, You have to prove your innocence. A crime should have some sort of physical evidence. I am sure that some of the children and youth workers have been abused in their life and lead and coach the alleged victims. Don’t ever p***s someone off because they might just point that finger and do some of their own coaching and there you are accused and guilty beyond any doubt. Then the legal system threatens you and forces a plea agreement because you are to afraid of the alternative. You are forever branded for the rest of your life and look forward to the day when it is finally over and you can rest in peace.
Danny Tucker,
Except for the friend part, your case is the same as mine; to a “T”. The false accusation, down to police station to “just talk, you can go home… oh no, you dont need a lawyer”.
Get into the room, it was like SVU on tv. I was videotaped, arrested, THEN told to sign this paper (Miranda rights) was brought to main jail, and it was LOUDLY announced “we have a kiddy-diddler here boys”. Was thrown in a cell and raped. Told the guards and they didnt do nothing. (News picked up the story–nothing happened)
The trial went the same way. 45 years. I kept telling them to stuff it, I want my day in court. STUPID ME finally took a plea deal (are you ready for this??FOUR MONTHS COUNTY TIME, 2 yrs. ankle and 10 years probation)
Four months for 5 alleged sexual battery charges??!??
I was done with ALL in 4 years!!!
On the day I was to be released from probation the judge asked why I wasnt in jail for the 45 years.
SIT DOWN FOR THIS ONE….
The prosecution stated that the mom & daughter REFUSED to come in to testify and “we had to get a conviction any way we could”.
THE PROSECUTION LIED FLAT OUT AND THE JUDGE DID NOTHING.
There was no case to begin with; but I was stuck with a public pretender (Public defender) Who’s first words out of his mouth were NOT…
Hello
I am your attorney
what are your charges
THEY WERE….
Take a plea deal, its the easiest way out of this mess
@ Sean and @ Danny I had that happen to me as well I had two family members who are Law enforcement I was taught to tell the truth all the time. Problem was I did tell the truth; my words were twisted and I was originally charge with sexual battery then it was reduce to an L and L when I fled from a probation restitution center after being harass by a Probation office in Orlando,Fla I was in violation I was rearrested on the sexual battery charge and rearrested on the L and L charge To this day I can not fix the issue… The sad part I listen to my uncles who were L.E.O’s and put myself in jail for telling the truth, I asked for an attorney was told “we just want to know what happen,You are not in trouble” bullsh!t line. From that day on I resented those in Authority and never spoken to either Uncle! and I been having trust issuing from that forward as well
In today’s world accusation is all that is needed for condemnation. Designating someone a sex offender for life is ludicrous. I was talking with some friends the other day about sheltering for hurricanes. In Brevard County Florida a sex offender must go to a jail for shelter while the family can go to a regular shelter. I have seen nothing that keeps armed home invaders, murderers, drug dealers, what have you out of the regular shelters. I will always shelter in my home. If I’m going to die, it will be in my home and not in some shelter the bureaucrats set aside for, in their consideration, the ‘dregs of life’. SRO’s must stick together, set an impeccable example, and prove our value to the community. It’s a tough challenge but one that can be won. The stellar life that each of us lives contributes to the eventual renewal of all. I get upset every time I read in the news or see on TV that a sex crime has been committed. I know that there are those who will apply those heinous acts to all SRO’s illogically as that may be.
I personally thinks SOs should move out of Florida to have a normal life. Same with Texas. It seems their lives are being made a miserable hell. I’m in Virginia and havent experienced the hell you all are going through.
Do you have California department of justice contact information?…. I have been trying all there numbers and nobody pics up and or don’t return phone calls… transplanted from Washington state and I’m life under parole ( which I can get reduced in 5 years to not register) which equals life with gps and group therapy in California….
I was charged with unauthorized sex with a 16-17 year old minor female in 2009 in Florida. Is there any way to get off of the lifetime registration.
Probably not but check with a lawyer to see.
Shawn, how were you taken off the registration? I got on the registration in the state of Florida also. My sister lives in Los Angeles California and I am looking into moving there from the state of Nebraska. Is it just as difficult in California as it is in florida to be on the registry?
Three days in a motel on vacation is not a residency establishment. When I change my residency my furniture, my shop tools, my automobiles, and my mailing address all go with me. This residency registration is a perfect example of the bureaucratic ‘bull shit’ coming out of Tallahassee. I tried registering in Virginia and they thought I was crazy. They asked me what I wanted them to do? My home is in Florida. “Holiday Inn” or any other motel will never be my resident, permanent or temporary.
The fascists public SERVANTS in Florida not only want to control people’s movements within it own borders but everywhere else, as well. The political zealots in Tallahassee, in the space where their brains used to be, somehow think this is the European Union with an overlord at the helm. First, stop fearing them! They — the SERVANTS — are attempting to rule us — the PUBLIC (their MASTERS) — by fear; don’t let them as this is what they count on! They do not own the earth we live on; our Creator does. It is our natural right to travel upon His land as we please. Government did not create us; the People created the government. How can the creature (government) be greater than its creator (us)? It’s all turned upside down and only because we allowed it.
Democrat = Democracy (the few rule over the majority)
Republican = Republic (the majority rule over the few) — but the idiots forgot this and they all call it a democracy…it is by grand design to enslave people!
Our American union is so screwed up!
You may want to ask your sheriff about your situation.
So then would not simply changing hotels every 2 or 3 days or whatever it is not be a simple way around this? Say you want to stay for 8 days. You just change hotels 4 times. Perhaps picking 2 diff hotels and keep changing off every 2 days. You could easily find a hotel that is a block away making it a minor inconvenience and giving the finger to the commies at the same time.
Problem is there will be a paper trail of you being in the state more than 72 hours. Technically you need to leave the state for 24 hours than come back.
The law does not prohibit hotel hopping within the state or require leaving the state. But if going to stay at same address for three or more days in the year, required to register it.
I suggest everyone to boycott states especially Florida and Texas! When it starts costing them billions of dollars in travel funds and tax money, along with starting to affecting their Government officials, jobs, education money of their schools and everything else, they’ll start changing their rules! Anyone involved in Movie productions, thinking about moving their business there, are you from movie was filmed there don’t go watch it also for any products that are distributed from there maybe there are even the cruise industry that departs from there , should also get everyone you know to support boycotting the state, businesses, filming in their state! People want to boycott Georgia because of an abortion issue, this Sex Offender issue is such a bigger problem! There are countless people on this list who have been convicted incorrectly females who were raped or attacked by male person people who have aged out of a relationship to become an adult “Just to name a few”! This problem it’s a bigger thing against individual continued persecution and prosecution!!
What are the rules in Texas if your taking a 6 day vacation? Would I have to register?
Donate to the Florida Action Committee. They are fighting for your rights. Even a couple dollars will help the causes.
Hello. I live in Austin, TX and I want to visit my mom (in FL) this Thanksgiving for 4 days.
Under the new insane FL registration laws, it looks like I must register with the police AND the driver’s license office to get a sex DL or ID card within 48 hours if I will be in FL for more than 48 hours. Once that happens, I have some questions:
(1) Will the police ever come to my mom’s house to check on me (her)?
(2) Will the police ever notify her neighbors?
(3) Will her address be listed on the FL sex offender registry website?
If the answers above are YES, then I was wondering …
(4) Can I stay at a hotel while visiting her to avoid all this?
That’s it. Thanks in advance for taking the time to answer.
Jason, it is crazy that you should even have to ask such questions but that is the level to which Florida has sunk. Florida doesn’t really care if their restrictions keep anyone safer, the bureaucrats just want to appear to be earning their pay check. The Florida policies destroy far more families than they protect.
Thanks again Charles. That’s exactly what I needed to know. By the way, the amount of time we’re allowed to visit FL before we need to register: is it four days or two days?
I believe it’s now 48 hours. Make a choice and dont look back.
You are incorrect. It’s 3 or more days, after which you have 48 hours to register.
Yes I was referring to h ok w soon you had to register. Should have put 3 or more days to clarify.
When I went down to see my daughter for her 33rd birthday, they told me I had 48 to register her address. I believe its 48 hours, to answer your question.
Jason, I live in Philadelphia, not one time in 7+ years did the State Police ever visit me or checked up on me.
They know that Tier 1 S.O., are not going to mess up again because they do not want to return to jail, that’s not to say it does not happen, it does occasionally.
3 or more days is NOT 48 Hours.
Thanks for your good comment Charles. Right now I am trying to decide whether I should visit my mom and put her house on the Registry (and possibly alert her neighbors) or whether I can stay at a hotel instead. Does anyone on the forum know the answer to this question?
Here’s the thing. You register down there for one trip could cause you all kinds of headaches. First they require you to get ID card which can possibly screw up your home DL. Secondly her neighbors would be notified or hotel which can possibly kick you out. Just go and have fun and stay out of trouble. Been there many times up to 4 days and no issues.
Is it 3 days in one location? If it is, then he should stay at his mother’s 2.5 days and elsewhere 1.5 days.
Personally, I won’t ever Register in Floriduh. Ever. No matter what. They have proven beyond any doubt that they are a criminal regime. I won’t be dealing with them. If they force me to, I promise I’ll make them pay dearly.
3 days total. Just dont do stupid stuff and you will be good.
Do they check airlines it hotels at disney if I use a travel agent…..is there anyway they can find out if you stay longer….is it stay 3 days than Yu have 48 hrs or what…
They only check yearly passes at disney from my understanding. What you should do is stay off the resort and buy daily tickets. I personally haven’t been there as my trip in May was canceled. As for registering,its 3 days but will cause you all kinds of headaches. Keep your nose clean and you’re good. I’ve been to Florida many times for a day or two due to my job. Never had an issue down there.
Charles – while you might have cone in the park in the past do not assume that you can do so indefinably. There are cameras all over the park and all of our photos are in databases and the technology exists to monitor each and everyone in the park with facial recognition systems.
I am sure it will not be announced when they do it…you will just be quietly escorted out of the park and banned for life. Might be embarrassing to be thrown out of Disney world in front of the kids and/or grand kids!
It’s illegal for them to use facial recognition as they’re not leo.
Since when did ‘illegal’ mean anything?
Don’t know who told you they are illegal. You could be in for a ride awakening.
https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2020/02/11/florida-cops-use-this-facial-recognition-tech-that-could-be-pulling-your-pics/
Now all the tickets are prepurchased online due to covid: anyone haveany issues yet?
https://communitylawfirm.com/faqs-about-florida-sex-offender-laws Here us a link to a Lawyer who explains it. As I stated previously entering into Florida not necessarily taking up temp resisidence.Also Disneyland doenst allow sex offenders on their property. Facial recognition technology is illegal in many places but not everywhere.
I believe (someone correct me if I am wrong) that Disney is starting to use biometrics … Including facial characteristics … For the purposes of pass and customer validation. As that becomes the norm Disney will be able to cross reference offender registries. Since ALL offenders are forbidden from entering Disney properties you run an increasing risk of being singled out. I see the day when Disney may even report an offender’s presence to local authorities, which could result in penalty for violation of Florida Statute 943.0435.
Citations needed.
I was just down there and they don’t use any kind of biometrics against databases. That’s highly illegal. They use finger print for use with pass. Simple solution is to buy day pass as they do check season pass against registries. Or just don’t go there as it’s the only place to ban SO.
one second after 48 hours you are subject to be arrested for not registering. Police plate readers shows in system the first time they see you, so if seen again after that, pulled over, etc. They will arrest you for it. Then they put you on federal sex offender list (which min is 10 years) but forever on Florida list.
I don’t agree that this is accurate. You have 48 hours after establishing a residence (permanent, temporary or transient).
Secondly, the license plate reader thing is possible, but I don’t know that they track the information or cross-reference it the way you suggest.
I’m moving down to orlando fla from VA as a SO but the crime isn’t against a minor I’m off probation but the house is across from a school i can only see things for crimes against minors not being in 1000 ft.. any help?
You also need to check the County and City ordinances. Look them up in municode.
No offense, but you should know the laws are very strict in Florida. Should stay in Virginia, more lenient.
MULTIPLE FAC members have chosen to relocate to FL from VA. “Just stay out of FL” is not the solution for everyone.
Virginia is WORSE than FL. Kids can’t even be taken to school. Employers are subject to mandatory public shaming.
Think it’s hard for a registrant to get and keep employment in FL? Just remember that it could be worse. You could be in VA.
Nah man, I’m in Virginia and yes people know where you work. However, I can take my kids to school, court approved. Also finding a job I’d very easy, just look where other SO are employed
WORLDWIDE PLANETARY BULLETIN: STAY AWAY FROM FLORIDUH AT ALL COSTS
Once you move to Floriduh, you will be on the Floriduh registry the rest of your life.
Unincorporated Orange County has no additional restrictions to the state law. However, the City of Orlando does:
Sec. 43.94. – Residency restrictions for sex offenders.
(1)As used in this section, the term:a.”Child care facility” has the same meaning as provided in Section 402.302, Florida Statutes.
b.”Park” means all public and private property specifically designated as being used for recreational purposes.
c.”Playground” means a designated area for children that has one or more play structures.
d.”School” has the same meaning as provided in section 1003.01, Florida Statutes, and includes private schools as defined in section 1002.01, Florida Statutes, a voluntary prekindergarten education program as described in section 1002.53(3), Florida Statutes, a public school described in section 402.3025(1), Florida Statutes, the Florida School for the Deaf and Blind, the Florida Virtual School as established under section 1002.37, Florida Statutes, and a K-8 Virtual School as established under section 1002.415, Florida Statutes, but does not include facilities dedicated exclusively to the education of adults.
(2)A person who has been convicted of a violation of sections 794.011, 800.04, 827.071, 847.0135(5), or 847.0145, Florida Statutes, regardless of whether adjudication has been withheld, in which the victim of the offense was less than 16 years of age, may not reside within 1,500 feet of any school, child care facility, park, or playground. However, a person does not violate this subsection and may not be forced to relocate if he or she is living in a residence that meets the requirements of this subsection and a school, child care facility, park, or playground is subsequently established within 1,500 feet of his or her residence. This subsection applies to any person convicted of such a violation for offenses that occur on or after October 1, 2004, except for persons who have been removed from the requirement to register as a sexual offender or sexual predator pursuant to section 943.04354, Florida Statutes.
(3)A person who has been convicted in a jurisdiction other than Florida of an offense that is similar to a violation of sections 794.011, 800.04, 827.071, 847.0135(5), or 847.0145, Florida Statutes, regardless of whether adjudication has been withheld, in which the victim of the offense was less than 16 years of age, may not reside within 1,500 feet of any school, child care facility, park, or playground. However, a person does not violate this subsection and may not be forced to relocate if he or she is living in a residence that meets the requirements of this subsection and a school, child care facility, park, or playground is subsequently established within 1,500 feet of his or her residence. This subsection applies to any person convicted of such a violation for offenses that occur on or after May 26, 2010, except for persons who have been removed from the requirement to register as a sexual offender or sexual predator pursuant to section 943.04354, Florida Statutes.
(Ord. No. 2013-26, § 1, 5-20-2013, Doc. #1305201202)
https://library.municode.com/fl/orlando/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=TITIICICO_CH43MIOF_S43.94RERESEOF
Other municipalities in Orange County may have additional restrictions.
Plate readers id the car not the driver or occupant. They can use it to establish a timeline but not as proof it was you.
Unfortunately the law says in the state. Meaning once you cross the state line into Florida regardless of where you stay if over 48hrs in 1 calendar year you must register and you will be registered for life even if you never go back. To me thats unconstitutional. This was told to my cousin by a lawyer in Florida who had to vacate Florida while on vacation to avoid it. Alot of those attorneys there will explain it better and for free if yiu respectfully ask them.
It’s 3 or more days.
Has nothing do with simply being in the state, either, or crossing state line.
Good morning and GOD bless you. Would i need to register if I were to visit from 20Nov2020 (6pm) to 23Nov2020 (9am). I’ll be traveling by plane.
If you stay at the same address for 3 or more days in the aggregate during a calendar year, YES, you must. As to the definition of day (as to whether the 20th and the 23rd count as days) you should call the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, because it is unclear.
Since when is the FDLE clear? Call them 5 times and ask 5 different people the same question and you’re likely to get 10 different answers (at least).
Personally, I would do exactly that, but record all of them to use in defense after arrest (which, being Florida, is a near certainty).
Dont worry about the law. If you go and dont do anything stupid, they wont bother you. Go see her and not stress the law. I have yet to encounter any law enforcement officers that cared if I was in their state as an SO.
I moved to Florida from Virginia. I moved here to help out my aging parents. I built my retirement home here. I have made many new friends and gotten involved in many interesting activities. It took a while for the authorities to get to know me, but after some frustration, I have been permitted to move on with my life. I was released from probation 11 years early. Keep in mind, the folks in the probation business have to ‘be tough’ to justify their existence. I believe that some were ‘abused and bullied’ children, but most are pretty decent people. While I hated leaving Virginia, I now call Florida my home and I love it here.
That’s great, I got off probation after proving I didn’t need it. I passed polygraph, have a great relationship with my trooper, and have had 0 issues in va. In fact, I travel to every state and have yet to have a single issue anywhere. Florida laws are much more stricter than Virginia’s. That’s all I’m saying.
I’m interested in moving to Florida for work I’m a sex offender
Good luck with it honestly. You’ll be registered for life and there’s nothing you can do to stop it
Narcissism is a major issue amongst sexual predators with young children as victims. Not saying you are a predator but your comment has a tone of arrogance I recognized immediately. Have you considered volunteering to attend Sex offender Treatment? I recommend it honestly because it seems like you’re in the cycle
In Virginia it’s mandatory any so with a crime against a minor to complete treatment. If you fail to do so, return to prison for a period of time determined by a judge.
You know who has a tone of arrogance? People who believe in “sex offender” treatment. You are definitely in the cycle.
I’m pretty sure being a Certified Sex Offender Therapist as well as a Licensed Therapist with a Bachelor’s Degree in Psychology qualifies me enough to make the determination. Now have a great day. I will not give you any power over the subject any further than you already felt like you have and will Ignore all future replies from someone who is in No position to attempt to Antagonize someone with No Criminal record of Sex Offenses.
No ‘licensed therapist’ diagnoses narcissism from a 1-para. web post. Nor make such hasty treatment recommendations.
It’s true that there are great sex offense therapists in the community. You, on the other hand, are a fraud, and that is why you feel antagonized.
Being a “certified Sex Offender Therapist” likely just means he/she runs a substance abuse program, substituting sex and children for drugs and alcohol. It’s an absurd approach because 1) most sex crime is the result of poor judgment rather than addiction of some kind and 2) given that the same people run in and out of the drug courts every year and are continually ordered to those programs, they aren’t very effective.
“Sex Offender Programs” – particularly the court ordered ones – can only claim success because the overwhelming majority of those subjected to them were never inclined to re-offend in the first place.
CSOT’s response to Will Allen strikes me as a false claim made by a troll. Jacob is absolutely right.
My treatment provider was a forensic psychologist who specialized in SO rehabilitation. You’re correct, many states just ask drug programs to fit in SO to fulfill obligations to the federal government for their grant money. Florida puts everyone on for life so they can get more money. Problem is the federal government is now asking them how all the out of state SO are in compliance. That’s a requisite for getting that money.
Never mind the out of state registrants. I want to know how Florida’s dead registrants are compliant. Are they reporting to each sheriff’s department at the required intervals to confirm that they are, in fact, still dead? If so, shouldn’t that be more concerning than the living ones?
This is excellent! We need more of this. We need to ridicule the stupidest and most barbaric aspects of this state-pushed violence in order to bring the whole corrupt monster down.
Romeo and Juliet cases also need a lot more ridicule. What 16 year-old is really going to need therapy if a 23 year-old hottie blows him? Where is this person?
More! More!
The only reason that Florida keeps dead SOs on the Registry is to inflate the numbers, just like when someone leaves the state permanently and remains on the list. Just to inflate the numbers.
Considering that according to Psychology Today psychology is still not yet a science and considering that even if it were your particular branch, which relies on the discredited polygraph test, not even science in a protoscience I will have to give my condolences for all the money you wasted on that “degree”. Of course then you went out and inflicted it on a bunch of people under the color of law so… condolences rescinded.
CSOT, I attended and completed treatment many years ago. I have long ago recovered my life and the life of my family. I can tell by your use of ‘fancy’ judgmental terms that you have no clue as to what you are talking about so I shall not further waste my time. I am sorry that you are having to survive with such a poor attitude.
Jason:
Avoid the hassles. Visit your mom for 2 1/2 days.
Michael:
Florida is one of the toughest states for registrants. An informal study showed that a full 25% of registrants in Florida have been forced into homelessness. That percentage is consistently above 30% (latest 38%) in Miami-Dade county.
If you have a 10 year registration period in your current state, Florida will put you on the registry for life which could turn your registry obligation in your home state to life. You may do better seeking out a state that won’t require you to register.
I’m glad you have an employment opportunity. Many registrants have successfully relocated to Florida. Before you make such a move do your homework and think long and hard if the move will be worth it.
The Best Advice when traveling in FLori-DUh is never to ‘stay’ in Florida….Just pass through……Read through the Lines……
I never register when ‘passing though’…
As one Sheriff told me, ‘You are a Grady Judd Graduate, He is an asshole, you don’t need to register, FCK HIM’
-that is what they said once when I went to register and told me to enjoy my visit in florida! I never have gone back!
Never asked me for any ID or anything and told me to ‘live your life’
that was in Lee County!
I had left Florida almost ten years ago and moved to AZ state… I had no issues here with the local law enforcement, I do what I need to do. I have a good place to live there are other people like me here but they are haters… I have a good job, a nice car, and I went back to church… I really feel a geographic location is the issue ( I will not go back to fla I caught my time there) I feel the real issue is to take responsbilty for one actions and move on.. You have remember society will never accept you and is decaying so why try to please them. Where ever you plant your feet that is your home I have to remember I broke the law I have to do all I can not to again.. I owe my victim that and myself to move on. Out here in the west a man has to kill his own snakes when they first came this way..to settle You have to have it in your heart and belive in yourself you gonna make it but the real fact is you gonna have to look to the LORD because that is the only way you gonna stay out of trouble with his help
Tim, if Florida is that strict, I would suggest moving elsewhere. I’m in Virginia and have no such restrictions. The only time we have to notify VSP is change of anything. They don’t care if we travel anywhere in the US. The only travel we’re required to inform them is overseas. I’ve had several RSOs travel overseas from VA with zero problems. I travel alot myself with no issues. I’ve even been to Florida several times, never been stopped nor asked my status. I’d say it’s time for yall to move to a better state that doesn’t restrict you as much.
We are planning a little get away trip to Florida next month and want to take our son with us to visit the Florida Keys and then travel back up through Miami. Our son lives in Florida and is on the registry so I was wondering if he will have to report that he will be traveling with us. We are driving down to the Keys on a Sunday staying overnight and then leaving on Monday to travel back through Miami to do some sight seeing basically, staying overnight in Homestead and then traveling back to where he lives on Tuesday. Basically, a 48 hour sight seeing round trip. I have another question as well, we would like to fly our son home for a weekend in Ohio and was wondering if he would have to register here or can he stay with different relatives. Like he would stay with my parents, his other grandma, his sister, etc. We are only looking at maybe a Thurs., Fri. to Mon.,Tues. scenario. We just don’t want to do something and have him get in trouble just because we wanted to do something with our son. We miss him and he hasn’t seen his family in almost 6 yrs. It has been especially hard on his twin sister not having him around. Thanks for any advice…
he will be OK – only 3 or more days require registration.
From the fine print on my registry requirements. Any changes to any registry info must be reported within 48 hrs. A few years ago it was 72 hrs. (3 days). Also if you cross state lines for more than 48 hrs. It must be reported with FDLE that you are leaving the state and must report to the local authorities in the state you’re visiting. Several years ago I moved to Texas for a few months and had to go through all that. Except back then I had 72 hrs (3 days) to make the necessary changes. Currently, unless I’m mistaken it’s only 48 hrs (2 days)
There’s no requirement to notify FDLE simply for crossing state lines. Even if you won’t be back for > 48 hours.
Unless it’s part of your Probation paperwork, leaving the state, without establishing residence, and returning, are none of FDLE’s business.
FAC is that your understanding also?
Is it 3 or more days away from home? Or, is it 3 or more days in the same location? That seems to be the confusing part. So, if he were to leave with us and we traveled around to different locations would he only be able to be away for 48 hours from home or would it be 48 hours in one location? I did check on your information page about the state we live in and if he is going to be in the state for 3 days or more he would have to register in the state but I also read somewhere that a day doesn’t begin until a night has been spent in the state. So, if he were to come up on a Friday and leave on a Monday he would be okay in the state??? I know life isn’t fair but at the same time I just don’t feel as though it is right that it is not just the offender that has to suffer these draconian laws but also the family members. I feel like my rights are violated at times along with my son because I can’t plan anything more than a certain amount of days. I feel like the registry is punitive and it isn’t just punitive for the registrants but also the family members.
I just moved to Florida, my cuz used to live in Florida, now in TN and is registered in TN. Is he still registered here? Can he stay with me for three days, then different county for 3ndays and back to me for 3 days?
You can check the registry here to see if he is on: https://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/sops/offenderSearch.jsf
If he’s on, he’s on.
He can stay with you, but three or more days require registration. He would need to go register at the local sheriff’s office and he would also need to go to the DHSMV to get a branded driver’s license or ID.
Sandra
If your cuz does come and visit you for 3 days just know your address will be placed on the Florida registry. My advice is for him to stay out of Florida because it’s not worth the hassle of lifetime registration.
Since he was once registered in florida,Florida, is still on it. Just tell him to behave and don’t stress it. I know many SOs have gone to florida and not register without issues.
Horrible advice
Have fun and not worry. It’s a small trip and no he doesn’t need to inform anyone of his travel plans within the US.
I think most people have missed the point that you stated that your son “lives in Florida and is currently on the Florida registry.” From what I know, if you son decides to leave Florida. He must report when he is leaving and where he is going with FDLE. I’m not sure if he needs to report that he’s leaving within a certain time but I do know he has only 48 hrs to report to the local authorities in Ohio once he reaches Ohio. Basically in Florida any changes to any registry info must be reported within 48 hrs. So, your son should be ok to leave his local residence in Florida to travel with you to the Keys with out any trouble. Especially if it’s only going to be 48 hrs. Anything past that would he would be required to report it to keep him out of trouble. Hypothetically speaking. Let’s say you get pulled over in the keys. The cops run everyone’s IDs and they see your son is a RSO. They will ask how long he’s staying in the keys, if he’s register a transient (hotel etc) address. Then if they see you again 3-4 days later and have a reason to check his ID again and he hasn’t changed his address. They can arrest him for failure to register. 1st time offense for failure to register usually gets probation. 2nd time offense landed me in prison for 1 yr. Needless to say I don’t travel much any more.
Maybe I’m the one misunderstanding your question though. If I am wrong, FAC correct me here. Another option is to call FDLE yourself to verify the time constraints of temporary and transient addresses etc.
@Tim P.,
” From what I know, if you son decides to leave Florida. He must report when he is leaving and where he is going with FDLE.”
With respect sir, you are mistaken… There is nothing stating that when leaving the state of Florida, for any reason aside from moving or international travel, that a person who is required to register must inform authorities. Each state has its own set of time requirements as to how long one can “reside” within that state before notification however.
I am Planning on travelling from PA to FL to move my elderly mother back to PA sometime in the next 6 months. I have a 25 year registry in PA. What is my time period to check in with the local PD in Orange County? What are the restrictions I need to adhere to? I do not plan on being in Florida for more than 4 or 5 days.
Don’t be in the same county in Florida for more than 3 days in the aggregate per year otherwise it triggers lifetime registration.
They don’t remove you when you leave the state.
Is this “same county” rule dependable? Can I really stay for 12 days, say, if I change my hotel to a different county every just-under-three days?
what constitutes 3 days? Arriving Tuesday leaving Thursday? or Arriving Tuesday leaving Friday?
The law does not define what three days is.
A ‘Day’ is a 24 Hour Period of Time in Nomenclature.
‘Others’ are Trying to Re-define the Term/Word of ‘Day’; FLori-DUh Politicians are Notorious For Doing This and One Particular Political Party is to Blame…
……You, All, Can Figure that Out-I do not speak Politics EVER!–I Cannot Vote-My Constitutional Right Was Taken Away Without Due Process of Law….., So Why Even Discuss Politics-I just Reference It!
Can I petition to get remove from the Florida Registery as a visitor.
Eddie
I believe you have to wait 25 years before you can petition; however you should contact Ron Kleiner, a Florida attorney, who can help you. Thought I had his contact information, but I don’t.
Good luck Eddie
One of the problems is that in Pennsylvania you can petition for removal from the registry. However, one of the issues will be if you are currently on the registry of any other state. Florida will keep you on their registry for life++. If you are on Florida’s registry it may adversely impact your petition in Pennsylvania.
I am heading up a construction crew and will be traveling to Florida end of Feb for 6days. I work closely with site safety officials and am not allowed to leave the premises except for lunch ad short breaks. Work hrs are 7am-5pm and I do an hour of zoom with my office from my hotel afterword. How would I go about registering?.
If I refuse this project, I will most likely for obvious reasons, be demoted or terminated. Any advice? Also I have 3 children in college. It’s ultra expensive so my career is paramount to getting them through. Thank you in advance.
Don’t sweat it man. Go do your work and go back home. Keep yourself busy and stay out of trouble lol
uhhh no. Call the FDLE and ask how they propose you register. We never recommend people avoid the registration requirements and risk a felony
My wife and I both require home care. Our son left his work in NY to become a live in caregiver. He was/is required to register.
The county in which we live is CERY CLOSELY monitored for offender movement. That said, he did not have a y problem registering after wading through knee deep regulations.
Following up on the registration is a stickler and be sure to follow the “quarterly update” rules. I cannot speak to all locations, but where we reside a knock came at the door the day after he registered to confirm his residence. The officer was very polite and professional. Just so you know they will check at your residence AND PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT.
A couple of other things:
1) no matter where you live permanently the state of Florida will notify your home state that you have registered. You may want to find out what your home state does with that.
2) by virtue of checking your location here they may also notify your employer at the home office. Not sure how you’d check on that without preemptive revealing the situation to your employer.
My personal advice … Find a way to avoid a visit to Florida.
Anonymous: be aware that once you register in Florida, in all likelihood you will remain on the Florida registry for life. Florida is one of the few (if not the only) states to publicly index their registry, so for the rest of your life whenever someone Googles your name, unless you are independently famous or notable for some reason, your FDLE sex offender page will be the first thing that comes up and even if you’re famous or notable it will be on the first page of results. This will be forever (for at least one year even after your death). I would seriously consider whether the trip is worth this. Even if you are eventually removed from the registry in your home state, you will probably remain on the registry in Florida for life even if you only come here once and never return.
Just out of curiosity, who keeps track of these ‘three day’ jaunts per year? The government can’t even keep track of those coming across the border illegally. Our legislators have legislated themselves into ‘lala land’.
My question is it 3 calendar days or business days? Because what if you arrive on Friday and Monday is a holiday? Technically that will be 4 days right?
Your vehicle registered to you will get automatically flagged when you go by a flock camera or any other type of law enforcement license plate reader and the local law enforcement will be notified. I guess if it catches you for more than 3 days they will look for you.
I’m hoping someone can tell me the requirements of Florida law as to previously registered citizens from a different state…
I was put on the Pa. registry in 2012 due to Pa adopting sorna.
I was on probation at the time for a misdemeanor 3 invasion of privacy.
The registry was not part of my sentence (only probation for 3years).
I fought for two years and was taken off due to the state unconstitutionally adding to my sentence (sorna, registry).
So I would like to visit Florida in the future for vacations- can I do that for any period of time due to having been on a registry?
Can I visit with a misdemeanor 3 (lowest of misdemeanors) on my record and NOT have to worry about the Florida registry?
Thank you all in advance.
I received my passport with the endorsement(mark) on the front page instead of last page. Do you guys think it will prevent me to travel to European countries such as Germany and France? The mark can be clearly visible. Also does 21 day notice trigger alert for each country that I visit? For example, if my intended travel is Europe but once I get there and change my plan after a few days and want to travel to Asia, how do I notify My local jurisdiction(local police) in US? Because it says I have to provide each destination country when submitting 21 day notice if it is intended travel but I do not know Asia is my intended travel until I get to Europe. If I fly from Europe, is that a IML violation and I will be questioned when I get back to US? Does US send notification to all the countries or only the destination countries for my travel? Does scanning the passport trigger alert regardless of which countryI visit?
Please advice
I am traveling in 3 weeks to Florida. I have PSL in NJ. I did 1 month with a public defender at 20 due to the circumstances. Everything was based on a lie but back then I took the easy way out pleading not knowing any better. I am not registered on the online registry. I was told when I visit Florida, which I have permission to, my name will all of a sudden pop up online. Is that true?
If you are a registered sex offender from another state. DO NOT VISIT FLORIDA. Even if you arr not required to be published on your home state’s sex offender website FLORIDA WILL publish you on theirs FOREVER. This will in turn be found on a background check when applying for a new job. DO NOT VISIT FLORIDA!!! Or it will screw you from getting a job ANYWHERE!
You’re 100% right I don’t know how they can call temporary housing and keep you on the registry for life. I was on the registry in Utah from 2007 to 2013 in which time I visited Florida and stayed in an Airbnb was required by Utah to check in, so I did not knowing that Florida would keep me on there for life. I’ve tried to fight it and I want to look into the ACLU because it feels like double Jeopardy. Clearly it feels like a violation of our civil rights.
How the hell? How are they going to know you were there for more than 3 days? Are they going to follow you? Are you wearing an ankle monitor? My question, is it three calendar days or is it three business days? Because what if you arrive on Friday and Monday is a holiday?