Yeah, Okay. Great, but America is too “justice obsessed” and I don’t see how this will deprogram and dissuade the public’s reliance of the registry. There needs to be an aggressive outreach campaign stating how the public is being emotionally manipulated, deceived and sold a fantasy.
The registry perpetuates victim-hood and treats those forced to register as dehumanized expendables and objects of curiosity at the expense
I clicked to bring me to Youtube to see how many good and bad comments were posted on the actual video. Video was uploaded on the 15th and comments are allowed. Guess what, not a single comment yet as of 1/25/2021.
They’re talking about my home state, Connecticut. Connecticut is one of the more lenient states. It’s 10 yrs and you’re done. I think the only lifetime registration in CT is for a victim under 13 and/or more than one conviction for a sexual offense. And no, they don’t make you register if you move there and have already completed your registration obligations in your original state. How it should be for all states. When you’re off, you’re off. Period.
Still think it is odd so many states have such different registry laws. Another proof it is punishment. The fact that one state you can be off in 10 years and another state, you cannot even get off of it when you die. Flora-duh!
So one state says you can again become a productive citizen. Another state says you are a felon and a sex offender and a risk for life. And with zero proof that all previous sex offenders will offend again.
Florida is lifetime regardless. Also if you down loaded a photo or a video that is said to be 13 or under they are still considered a victim whether you knew them or shared content. I would still have the potential of being under Conneticuts life time rule if I was there. I knew no one, I produced nothing, I contacted no one. I shared nothing. I did my time, I did my probation and I have done better for my self than most but yet her I am still in Floriduh!
Ok, so I watched the entire video and here’s what I have issue with;
Any time people like this talk about sexual “offenses”, they cling to this idea that sexual offenses are all non-consensual issues regarding hands on molestation or incest.
Not once, when discussing the registry and its effect on those who must register, not once did these professionals or the people asking questions bring up OTHER types of offenses that land people on the registry and RUIN their lives.
What about consenting couples getting caught doing it in the back seat of a car in a darkened area like my generation X did in the 80’s and 90’s? What about teenagers who send nude pics to each other?
It seems the only thing anyone wants to talk about is sexual “abuse” and the victims of those crimes. Hence the reason why our society has a field day wanting to banish people on the registry.
I’m sick and tired of hearing “victim, victim, victim” in all these discussions of people claiming they’d like to see changes made to the registry.
Why can’t we ever admit that there ARE teenagers who CHOOSE to engage in romantic involvements with older people? I did it myself when I was 15. I am NOT a victim. And I am sick of the idea that “it’s not a popular opinion” or “it’s not politically correct” or, my personal favorite; “victim blaming”.
I’ll gladly take the blame for pushing the older woman I slept with into finally sleeping with me.
To hell with “political correctness”. That’s what helped ruin this country. Honesty is not always popular but it’s time we start being honest about a good chunk of sex offenses not being as “heinous” as they keep portraying. I’m so sick of this.
MAESTRO….my victim is an ‘Ungendered Minor’……
That Term does not exist anywhere in the USA legal annuals, except for in my case!
An ‘Ungendered Minor’, is a Fictitious Term; Only in FLORI-DUH, do they create and manufacture crime and create their own Words of the English Language!
I have been following sex offender issues since 1998. I believe the reason that the focus is more on sexual abuse if a minor because it is what comes to the collective public mind when they hear “sex offenders”. It very well seems to be that may be the focus because it is the most despicable and emotionally damaging of offenses. I am both a survivor of abuse and a one-time perpetrator. So, I can see both sides.
To put it in prison jargon (apologies for using the vernacular) the public thinks “baby raper” when they think of sex offenders; “child molester”, “pervert”.
I think that’s why the focus is mostly in the area. What really ticks me off is things like the #MeToo movement. My take on that is that those people have never moved from victim to survivor because they all seem to be stuck in the anger and blame stage, and only want revenge and seeking some kind of retribution. It’s easier to be angry and blame than take responsibility for their feelings and “deal with it”.
There are too many on Facebook, Twitter, etc., who don’t care or don’t know that Stranger Danger comprises only 7% of sexual assualts. It doesn’t fit with what they WANT to believe. That is the big problem, and they are voters. The legislators want to appease the voters.
Most people don’t want to see sexual offending from the disease perspective. “They are just sick people” is not a diagnosis or disease. It is an emotional and mental disease that is not about sex.
The mindset of sex offenses as being acts against children is the first thing most people think of.
Yes, someone raping an adult can be devastating because it is the strong overpowering the vulnerable, the physically weak.
The damage it does to a child goes deeper for many reasons. It can have long-lasting negative effects on its victims.
I am a survivor, but at 71 years old, I still am dealing with some aspects of abuse that began when I was 4 or 5.
So, I think that’s why the focus is in that area.
But I must say, I do agree with most of what Maestro commented on.
Hope that made sense.
I don’t foresee the laws changing anytime soon. The problem with change is illustrated in the mindset of our politicians.
When the residency restriction ordinance was enacted here, there were groups and licensed treatment providers who presented the evidence that the laws do not work. It was evident that the city counsel was persuaded that they dont work, but yet the ordinance was enacted.
After the meeting we asked two of them why they still went ahead and passed it. The answer from both was, “To get the votes. There is an election next year we have to think of”.
The other responses I’ve gotten from legislators is that they fear being soft on sex offenses and it would be political suicide to try to change the laws.
Facts… That’s why the scales of Justice are unbalanced in many of these types of ordeals. One wonders who’s running on empty today in this government abuse.
One even wonder if Elton John found is rose colored glasses in the back seat with his piano Keys. So is the blind still leading the blind or should we ask a maestro.
Yeah, Okay. Great, but America is too “justice obsessed” and I don’t see how this will deprogram and dissuade the public’s reliance of the registry. There needs to be an aggressive outreach campaign stating how the public is being emotionally manipulated, deceived and sold a fantasy.
The registry perpetuates victim-hood and treats those forced to register as dehumanized expendables and objects of curiosity at the expense
I clicked to bring me to Youtube to see how many good and bad comments were posted on the actual video. Video was uploaded on the 15th and comments are allowed. Guess what, not a single comment yet as of 1/25/2021.
They’re talking about my home state, Connecticut. Connecticut is one of the more lenient states. It’s 10 yrs and you’re done. I think the only lifetime registration in CT is for a victim under 13 and/or more than one conviction for a sexual offense. And no, they don’t make you register if you move there and have already completed your registration obligations in your original state. How it should be for all states. When you’re off, you’re off. Period.
Maestro
Still think it is odd so many states have such different registry laws. Another proof it is punishment. The fact that one state you can be off in 10 years and another state, you cannot even get off of it when you die. Flora-duh!
So one state says you can again become a productive citizen. Another state says you are a felon and a sex offender and a risk for life. And with zero proof that all previous sex offenders will offend again.
Florida is lifetime regardless. Also if you down loaded a photo or a video that is said to be 13 or under they are still considered a victim whether you knew them or shared content. I would still have the potential of being under Conneticuts life time rule if I was there. I knew no one, I produced nothing, I contacted no one. I shared nothing. I did my time, I did my probation and I have done better for my self than most but yet her I am still in Floriduh!
“and have already completed your registration obligations in your original state.”
Since Floriduh registrants can never complete their registration obligations, I can scratch CT off my list as well.
That was an excellent discussion. Thank you for sharing.
Ok, so I watched the entire video and here’s what I have issue with;
Any time people like this talk about sexual “offenses”, they cling to this idea that sexual offenses are all non-consensual issues regarding hands on molestation or incest.
Not once, when discussing the registry and its effect on those who must register, not once did these professionals or the people asking questions bring up OTHER types of offenses that land people on the registry and RUIN their lives.
What about consenting couples getting caught doing it in the back seat of a car in a darkened area like my generation X did in the 80’s and 90’s? What about teenagers who send nude pics to each other?
It seems the only thing anyone wants to talk about is sexual “abuse” and the victims of those crimes. Hence the reason why our society has a field day wanting to banish people on the registry.
I’m sick and tired of hearing “victim, victim, victim” in all these discussions of people claiming they’d like to see changes made to the registry.
Why can’t we ever admit that there ARE teenagers who CHOOSE to engage in romantic involvements with older people? I did it myself when I was 15. I am NOT a victim. And I am sick of the idea that “it’s not a popular opinion” or “it’s not politically correct” or, my personal favorite; “victim blaming”.
I’ll gladly take the blame for pushing the older woman I slept with into finally sleeping with me.
To hell with “political correctness”. That’s what helped ruin this country. Honesty is not always popular but it’s time we start being honest about a good chunk of sex offenses not being as “heinous” as they keep portraying. I’m so sick of this.
MAESTRO….my victim is an ‘Ungendered Minor’……
That Term does not exist anywhere in the USA legal annuals, except for in my case!
An ‘Ungendered Minor’, is a Fictitious Term; Only in FLORI-DUH, do they create and manufacture crime and create their own Words of the English Language!
@ Maestro:
A – freaking – men.
I have been following sex offender issues since 1998. I believe the reason that the focus is more on sexual abuse if a minor because it is what comes to the collective public mind when they hear “sex offenders”. It very well seems to be that may be the focus because it is the most despicable and emotionally damaging of offenses. I am both a survivor of abuse and a one-time perpetrator. So, I can see both sides.
To put it in prison jargon (apologies for using the vernacular) the public thinks “baby raper” when they think of sex offenders; “child molester”, “pervert”.
I think that’s why the focus is mostly in the area. What really ticks me off is things like the #MeToo movement. My take on that is that those people have never moved from victim to survivor because they all seem to be stuck in the anger and blame stage, and only want revenge and seeking some kind of retribution. It’s easier to be angry and blame than take responsibility for their feelings and “deal with it”.
There are too many on Facebook, Twitter, etc., who don’t care or don’t know that Stranger Danger comprises only 7% of sexual assualts. It doesn’t fit with what they WANT to believe. That is the big problem, and they are voters. The legislators want to appease the voters.
Most people don’t want to see sexual offending from the disease perspective. “They are just sick people” is not a diagnosis or disease. It is an emotional and mental disease that is not about sex.
The mindset of sex offenses as being acts against children is the first thing most people think of.
Yes, someone raping an adult can be devastating because it is the strong overpowering the vulnerable, the physically weak.
The damage it does to a child goes deeper for many reasons. It can have long-lasting negative effects on its victims.
I am a survivor, but at 71 years old, I still am dealing with some aspects of abuse that began when I was 4 or 5.
So, I think that’s why the focus is in that area.
But I must say, I do agree with most of what Maestro commented on.
Hope that made sense.
I don’t foresee the laws changing anytime soon. The problem with change is illustrated in the mindset of our politicians.
When the residency restriction ordinance was enacted here, there were groups and licensed treatment providers who presented the evidence that the laws do not work. It was evident that the city counsel was persuaded that they dont work, but yet the ordinance was enacted.
After the meeting we asked two of them why they still went ahead and passed it. The answer from both was, “To get the votes. There is an election next year we have to think of”.
The other responses I’ve gotten from legislators is that they fear being soft on sex offenses and it would be political suicide to try to change the laws.
Facts… That’s why the scales of Justice are unbalanced in many of these types of ordeals. One wonders who’s running on empty today in this government abuse.
One even wonder if Elton John found is rose colored glasses in the back seat with his piano Keys. So is the blind still leading the blind or should we ask a maestro.