NY: Social media ban ends for some sex offenders in NYS
People on the sex offender registry in New York State can now access the internet and social media platforms without restrictions, except in some cases. The New York Civil Liberties Union (NYCLU), Rutgers Law School Constitutional Rights Clinic, and Prisoners’ Legal Services of New York secured a settlement on January 24 ending the ban.
The original Jones et al. v. Stanford complaint was filed against the New York State Department of Corrections and Community Supervision (DOCCS) and New York Board of Parole in March 2020. The complainants challenged New York’s Electronic Security and Targeting of Online Predators Act (e-STOP) and DOCCS Directive 9201.
In 2008, e-STOP was put in place by former Governor Andrew Cuomo while he was Attorney General. The act originally targeted social media platforms like MySpace, AIM and Facebook to keep sex offenders off of those sites. According to NYCLU, e-STOP has since expanded its definition of social media to include websites with profiles, log-ins and subscription services.
But do they have to register them like we do here?
And here, a lot of the companies themselves ban us.
for example, Nextdoor. And since I live with my parents, THEY are banned from it as well because I am banned. But hey, my parents are not being punished right?
Doesn’t this run afoul of the Supreme Court decision stating that ANY restrictions are unconstitutional? Why the specific mention of level 3, underage victims (which are most SO’s), and using the internet as a continued ban. My advice is to keep changing profiles.
Even though Facebook itself bans us, the constitutional right has surfaced. 49 states to go. Michigan did a partial adherence, only when forced federally, and only the minuscule to be in compliance. Hope all the illegal A.G. ‘s and legislatures are watching and letting it seep into their one tract minds.
Fred
However, it seems anytime registered citizens get a win, the legislatures enact some new law and dare us to spend more $ to fight it. They have unlimited resources to beat us into the ground.
Michigan registerants, in my opinion, still has no clue what they do and not have to do without being arrested. A previous article on FAC stated that after the ruling, no one really knew what to do. Some registered just in case and some said “Screw it, come find us if you want us”.
Finally, many on the registry quit living there lives and just give in and constantly live in fear of that knock on the door. When I finally got off probation, every time a patrol car came down my street, I was nervous they had changed their minds or had made a mistake.
Fred
Also
People should be banned from social media only for violating a rule such as making a theat to someone or hacking into an account. Although we are not a protected class, we have done nothing wrong to them. They say they are protecting other users from harm. Well we should ban everyone then because anyone has the “Potential” to do something wrong in their life.
Now Cherokee you know we’ve did something wrong since Adam and eve. Sure this computer is a bit much the way people can and will abuse it but when authorities take their civil justice and do a little mix to … say tempt one.. than something is wrong. Didn’t they build an atom bomb and thought it was man’s accomplishment? One wonders who actually protects and serves….. with principals or do we ever make mistakes or are we only human.
What good did it do for them to say they can use Facebook when Facebook doesn’t allow registrants to use Facebook. Which I don’t see how it can be legal since where I live the city uses Facebook to deliver all notices about changes in trash pickup or events or any other notices. They don’t send out written notices anymore.
Besides all my kids are on it and post pictures of them and the grandkids but I can’t get them or communicate with them like they all do with one another.
David
Be glad people in your household can still use facebook. Nextdoor bans ALL people at your address.
I was reading a story today and had no idea what I was going to come across in the middle of the story. This was a normal story I thought until I read these comments by the man.
The advocate had referred to a study indicating that the presence of strip clubs and other adult entertainment establishments in New York City led to a decrease in sex crimes. Researchers suggested that the reduction was mostly driven by potential sex offenders frequenting those establishments rather than committing crimes.
“Is the dude basically saying, if we provide free (oral sex) for Uncle Pervie there will be few rapes and few (a slur for Chinese women) will be shipped in CONEX containers to the Port of Wilmington??” Brady wrote from his official government email address
Source: https://www.aol.com/lawmaker-criticized-slurs-arrested-shoplifting-222755848-224632399.html
Banning people from using social media in the 21st century is wrong. Parents should monitor who their children are communicating with online and take precautions. If an adult is into gaming and comes in connect with a minor talking about the game than no need to panic. Plus there are software to monitor people’s online activity if a problem occurs.
Why are you making sense? Stop it. Government exists to protect children and parents do not need to be responsible or supervise them. All we have to do is keep “sex offenders” at bay and everyone is safe.
Personally, I think one way to wear the Hit Lists down is to make fun of them incessantly. Good parents have no need for the Hit Lists. They don’t want to be associated with the stupidity of it. People who care about their image (the main thing for most “people” living in Amerika), don’t want to be associated with dumb. Only dumb people do.
Will
I never make sense I just post a comment to see if it sticks while thinking what has our country become. If the goal is protecting children where are the other lists. You can’t tell me sex is the worst thing to happen because if sex didn’t exist nobody would be here.
Brandon
Gun Violence, Drugs and overdoses and car wrecks kills untold 1000s of young people across America every year. How many children are killed or kidnapped every year by sex (ex) offenders , active or not?
According to the registry gurus, we are lined up in the bushes awaiting our next victim. Also, many people have this vision of everyone on the registry being child molesters. The stranger danger lie 100,000’s of thousands of men are lurking by schools awaiting a victim is really laughable.
When I lived with my Grandpartents when I was 11, I walked to and from school 2 miles each way along a major road. Not once did anyone stop and offer me candy. Where was all this free candy because I never got any of it.
Also I was a pretty street smart kid. The one incident that still sticks in my mind, I was in K-mart with my Mom when I was around 10. A man asked me to come over and try on some shoes to see if they would fit his kid. I ran a told my Mom but they guy had already taken off.
CherokeeJack
There’s a comedian who has a bit about the difference between women and men. A woman can go up to a young boy and say, I’ll be there when your older and nothing happens with no pitchforks. A man goes up to a young girl and says the same and he gets cuffed.
Registry supporters need to go back to their bottles along with their genie. To these people sex is the biggest sin to do to a minor including minors doing things to each other. Do adults forget what teen hormones are and where your mind was during those years. Sex has and always will exist and a registry isn’t going to stop sex.
I know people who were upset when my girlfriend and I stared dating. She’s ten years younger and I’ve known her and her family for decades.
CherokeeJack
My kids do not live with me. I have grand kids that I’ve never seen and can’t interact with thanks to this devious policy of Facebook. Murders and scammers can have free run on the internet but if you are even just accused of anything even remotely associated with what they call a sex crime, you are cut off from any interaction with any bulletins or even your family.
I have kids in California ( soon be transferred back to Virginia) Texas
Kansas And Missouri. I can’t travel because of my wife’s health.
Facebook is only picking on registry people because it makes them look good in public eye and the government gives them the list to make it easy. It’s about money.
Get rid of the list, problem solved.
I just saw that Justice Breyer plans to retire, so I don’t know what that means for our cause.
Not exactly this topic but I just heard an interesting news point on the local news in Kansas City. It said a man that was convicted of a 2008 sex crime has just been awarded $900,000.00 for a crime that was not committed. The girl that was 8 years old at the time has recanted her story. He will now be expunged of the crime and it will be removed from his records.
They didn’t give more details, if anyone can find a complete article on it I would like to know more.
This happens more than you could ever imagine. A young person sees an opportunity to get attention and boom parents and then law enforcement see an opportunity to make their name big and get noticed publicly. So they question the child in such a way that the child is going to say exactly what the investigators want them to say so they can become a hero and save this innocent child from the monster that they have made him to be in the child’s mind.
Now 14 years later the child realizes what happened And agrees to help undo it . After a forth of his life has destroyed. This story sounds similar to mine, I would like to know how he went about getting it done.
At least now Kansas is one of the few states that has made allowances to be reimbursed for being falsely convicted.
I did find a little more on the case. It’s on the Lebanon-express.com news article entitled “ Kansas to pay about $900.000.00 to man wrongfully convicted”
Wichita, Kans. (AP). A man who spent more than 13 years in prison after being wrongfully convicted of sex crimes against an 8 year old Kansas girl could receive nearly $900,000 in compensation from the state. Merardo Garcia Jr. 52 was convicted in 2008 etc.——
In 2020 when the girl recanted her story. Etc.
A short article, I’m sure when he was arrested they had a much longer article.
David
I am sure that is the ONE time he was happy to be in a news article. Proving his innocence. Would like to see the looks on the faces of all the neighbors he had to take Bullspit from over the years.
“… as to Registrants who have not used the internet to facilitate the commission of their underlying sex offense.”
This rather small subset of registrants includes rapists, most hands-on child sexual abusers, actual CP producers if no internet distribution occurred, and CP possession if photos were not obtained via the internet–a very small group these days. Most registrants will still be excluded from internet use.
Veritas.