MI: lawmakers debate changes to states sex offender registry law
Michigan lawmakers are debating how to overhaul the state’s sex offender registry after a federal appeals court ruled sections of the law are unconstitutional, but Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel is contending the proposed fixes don’t repair the law’s flaws.
As Democratic and Republican elected officials wrestle over the best solution to a highly charged issue, a federal judge has freed the state’s 44,000 convicted sex offenders from complying with registry reporting requirements because of the novel coronavirus outbreak and confusion about the current registry.
Among the state’s registry restrictions the U.S. Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals struck down in 2016 were a ban on convicted sex offenders from living, working or loitering within 1,000 feet of schools and a 2011 revision of the law that put sex offenders back on the registry permanently if they committed a felony after they had served their sentences and had been taken off the registry.
I have a suggestion for Michigan legislators, get rid of the hit list as evidence suggests is a waste of money/resources; useless in effectiveness; and the destruction of people’s lives. Give people the tools and the freedom to turn their lives around. Focus on true prevention and allow people to heal without being involved in recovery. “ Get off my neck; my spine; my man land; and my families. Get out of every aspect of my life and let me live it to the fullest.” See not that hard if you believe in the right thing for all. So Michigan legislators get a brain; a heart and spine putting this law in the pits of hell where it belongs!!
Brandon, you say that you have a suggestion for Michigan lawmakers. I think that’s great.
But, I respectfully ask you to contact each of them with your thoughts.
Then post here with the names and emails of the people that you contacted so that we can all contact them too.
Here, everyone just agrees with you (you make great points) but Michigan lawmakers don’t read this. So you gotta contact them.
K?
IOWA is getting bad ITS A 10/21/LIFE now some dick wants to change that law and put people back on whos been off 15 or so yrs
IA: BILL TO REQUIRE CONTINUED REGISTRATION
January 30, 2019 ·7 Comments
… One area I have been working on in past years has to do with requiring sex offenders that have timed out of their requirement to register as a sex offender to continue to register once with the county sheriff when they have moved to a new address. This would apply to sex offenders that have moved within Iowa, or moved into Iowa from another state. Past Iowa Supreme Court precedent has regarded this type of requirement to be applied retroactively as a regulation, not a punishment. It is imperative for the protection of our children and adults both that our law enforcement be aware of the presence of past sex offenders. I will be filing this bill again this year. …
As always, I can be reached at dean.fisher@legis.iowa.gov and at 641-750-3594. Announcement
https://www.legis.iowa.gov/legislation/BillBook?ga=88&ba=HF79
Good catch— Iowa needs to halt that nonsense ASAP, but I’m not sure what org is there.
Anyone alerted NARSOL to this or know whether they have a volunteer or contact in Iowa?
It’s quicker and cheaper to stop a bad bill than to sue over it after it becomes law.
Jacob
I need help on this issue if anyone can help we need to bite this in the A$$ be4 we are finished
The legislation is going just as I thought it would. I suspect that any rewrite of the law will continue to include parts that will have to be challenged AGAIN in court on constitutional grounds. There is also no guarantee that the Michigan House and Michigan Senate will even pass the new bill in any form if it makes them appear to be soft on crime. Just get rid of the damn scarlet letter law once and for good.
Didn’t Dean Fischer try this a few years ago? Sounds like Dean Fischer is trying to make a name for himself by attacking people with one of the lowest re-offense rates. Iowa does stand for Idiot Out Wondering Around and Dean Fischer fits that perfectly.
I totally agree been off 15 yrs I have no intentions of re-registering.
These politicians will continue to disobey the few courts that rule against them because there are no consequences for their actions. How long have we been discussing this Michigan situation? About the only credible threat would be for the federal court to say here’s what your law should look like. You either pass it or we’re going to invalidate the entire law and say that you can’t put anyone Convicted before your new laws passed back on the registry. Of course, we know that will never happen because it should’ve happened already
hello, I have a question, so what does this article mean exactly? This just sounds like stuff we already know and have been told over and over again for since last year.
What does these mean for people like me and others in the same boat, my conviction was 6-19-1992 before a registry even existed, does this finally mean my self and others like me will finally be removed, from this ridiculous registry. Please explain a little more clearly what this means thank you.
all I know of is IowaRSOadvocate
@cnvtmiller_k on twitter but no response out of her
we need someone on twitter as well to get to her
I received an email from her. I won’t post her email unless I have permission.
@ Brandon
Looks as if fishers bill didnt stick to the wall this time around
no need to post the email just if the bill is dead or ongoing? or outcome
Jacob
I can email NARSOL and Nebraskans Unafraid about advocacy groups in Iowa. I have to do something with all this time on my hands due to a blown out knee.
I also shot them an email as well we need more support!
More encouraging Iowa news: this dumb bill may have died in committee:
https://www.legis.iowa.gov/legislation/BillBook?ga=88&ba=HF79
I actually read this with a list of bills to be introduced Fisher had to sneak it in there I need to find the list
Jacob see if you can work these links
https://www.legis.iowa.gov/legislation/BillBook?ga=88&ba=HF79
https://www.legis.iowa.gov/legislation/billTracking/billHistory?billName=HF%2079&ga=88
Eleventh Calendar Day – Eighth Session Day
Hall of the House of Representatives
Des Moines, Iowa, Thursday, January 24, 2019
The House met pursuant to adjournment at 8:30
INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
House File 79, by Fisher, a bill for an act modifying sex offender
registry requirements by requiring sex offenders whose registration
requirements have expired to reregister, and providing penalties.
Read first time and referred to committee on Judiciary
all I found of this Bill pray its dead
With all the talk of criminal justice reform, this is the perfect time to discuss the need for reform of the registry and all the draconian laws that go with it. I have been looking for such articles to comment on the need to include registrants in this reform.
Since then, I have had my own personal Facebook account compromised with some unsolicited activity. I deleted that account. FAC made it possible for me to continue posting comments under a different account name. I had great success for 5 days. I have now been locked out of that account because of suspicious activity.
I am starting to wonder if there is someone out there who is determined to stop my comments. I am not giving up.
So sorry this is happening on fb SarahF. It has become such a toxic place since I was last there, possibly giving an outlet to vigilantes, yet you potentially reach a wide audience. Heartburn.
Michigan State Police Col. Joseph Gasper … also called for stricter rules governing sex offenders who move to Michigan from other states.
“Any revision of (the law) should ensure and clarify that an individual convicted in another state of an offense requiring sex offender registration in that state should, at a minimum, be required to register in Michigan for a similar duration under substantially similar terms regardless of the date of offense,” he wrote.
“Otherwise, registered sex offenders from other states with offenses prior to Michigan’s 2011 amendments to (the law) could seek sanctuary from all sex offender registration by simply relocating to Michigan.”
If I were the judge in Michigan I’d hold all of the legislators in contempt of court. Maybe then those piss ants will never defy a judge again.
JJJJ
obvious Mr Brandon dont share to the group with the names and emails of the people
I’m not a Michigan resident and never have been. Just like you I responded to this post with my thoughts. Guess I need your approval to write to lawmakers that have and never will make laws impacting my life.
Sir, have you read the bill that they are proposing?
Maybe we all need to email them!
Believe me, brother when I say, you don’t need anybody’s permission to send as many emails as you like.
Just please send them!
(They’ll read emails from non-residents too, I believe.)
Does anybody have the link from the committee meeting about Michigan’s proposed bill? I need that for ammunition to my arguments that the majority of the residents were against the bill.
Here is the new proposed Michigan bill: https://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2019-2020/billintroduced/House/pdf/2020-HIB-5679.pdf
Here is the contact info for the bill’s author: http://gophouse.org/representatives/central/lower/contact-rep-lower/
Here is the text of what I sent (it may sound a bit testy, but I believe that measure outrage is called for):
Dear Sir:
Although I am from a different state (Florida), I feel it incumbent upon me to briefly express my thoughts on proposed House Bill 5679, as I am taken aback at your proposed changes to the existing law.
Sir, the several rulings from the courts have said, in sum total, that a complete overhaul of Michigan’s broken registry system must be undertaken; for, a great many parts of the current legislation are blatantly unconstitutional!
You have proposed nothing more than a few minor definitional changes and are trying to establish at least 50 new registry systems, within Michigan, by insisting that emigrants from other states be held to the state-of-origin’s enacted statutes. This leads me to believe that you have absolutely no respect for any constitution, nor any law!
You have refused to abide by the judiciary!
If your bill (or any legislation similar to it) is passed by your congress, you will have collectively snubbed your noses at the rule of law!
Truly,
Jjjj
I will read the bill and be writing my own emails this evening. Lately I wanted the people I know that live in Michigan to make their voice heard before I did anything. I have no problem writing for my opposition to proposed bills. No problem for calling me out either
Brandon, you are a super-hero!!! I believe you said, in another post, that you are not even a Florida resident. Well, in my opinion, that makes your contributions that much more appreciated!
Thanks for helping us out !!!
Everyone that speaks up is a hero to us!!!!
Thanks Again! 🙂 🙂 🙂
I believe we all need to speak out I think @ Brandon is in Florida yet standing up for others rights in other state issues
we are all in this together people on the registry and off we need to stand NOW
Im currently researching Missouri and Illinois for sanctuary from this life if hell
so far seems Missouri says it dont matter if your on or off your still registering yet what they are doing is unconstitutional making people believe they have to register when they really dont.. I have a email from Adele on that as well
The idea of an “independent federal duty to register” under SORNA is completely bogus, IMO, and I’m quite surprised that Missouri is pushing that as a basis for retroactive registration.
Ill have more on Illinois this week
Hey #experiened
I have looked at the federal statute, and it say some sort of mumbo jumbo about interstate commerce.
That could be important.
Also, as far as I can see, the federal law simply takes a state’s charge of failure to register and add a federal charge to it with steeper penalties.
So the federal obligation to register does not exist – only a federal penalty for not registering. There is no federal registry. There are only state, territorial and tribal registries.
When they are put into one webpage conglomerate, they are called a federal registry. But a fed registry does not, in fact, exist.
Also, I think that the fed penalty in only triggered if you have also engaged in interstate commerce in addition to a stat’s failure to register.
Just my opinion. And I am not a lawyer.
If you need my source materials on the subject, just let me know and I will share a link to my archives.
Is that Illinois or Missouri? information as this is on the Mo site
On June 16, 2009 the Missouri Supreme Court ruled that federally mandated registration requirements under the Sexual Offenders Registration and Notification Act (SORNA) applies to individuals who committed a sex offense prior to July 20, 2006. Therefore, SORNA imposes an independent obligation requiring respondents to register as sex offenders in Missouri. The independent registration requirement under SORNA operates irrespective of any allegedly retrospective state law that has been enacted and may be subject to the Article 1, Section 13 of the Missouri State Constitution.
same BS they blew smoke on in an email
entire Page
https://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/PatrolDivisions/CRID/SOR/factsheet.html#2009
Jjjj
I’m not a super hero but thanks for the compliment. When I see or hear about an injustice across the country I make sure my voice is heard loudly. You are correct I used to live in Florida; but I left the state about a year ago. If there’s anything I can do to help let me know. United we stand; divided we fall and it’s time to knock this dam known as the registry Just like the Berlin Wall fell!!