Member Submission: Registration during Covid
At this moment I am in line to register in person at Pasco county. The regular registration officer is out today, and there is only one. They put someone in as a temporary replacement and so far I’ve been outside, in line for over an hour. A very angry lady in front of me has been here 3. The sheriffs dept/jail is closed to all visitors but only one person handles this. Amidst covid, we must wait outside. With over a one hour round trip, I am not one who wants to come back. So here we wait. I really don’t understand why In person is necessary when we get visits to our home every 3 months which is much more solid than just driving to the jail, showing your ID, and signing a paper.
Because…. it’s all BS to further punish us . Any and all inconvenience to us is their gratification. Once we understand this mentality it will Become less frustrating
I was watching a crime watch show where this guy had accosted , raped, and murdered/burned 6 women. When they finally caught the guy. They asked the guy why he had to kill them? His answer was “ I’d rather be known as a murder than a rapist” ( rape couldn’t been proved since he burned the bodies) The detective Said “ Yes if he’d have to have a label between the two it’d be Murder. Why? Because even murders don’t get treated as SO do!
I sat from 2:00 to 5:30 in our registration office here in El Paso County Colorado yesterday. Our office has 2 people in it and is open 8 to 8:30, 5 days a week. Additionally you register quarterly up to 5 days before your due or 3 days past the date and still…a 3.5 hour wait only to tell them your information has not changed since the last quarter. Paperwork? No… they don’t want to take the chance of contact. It’s an oral interview, you tell them nothing has changed, they snap a photo, no fingerprints anymore (so why was it necessary before COVID). What a friggin circus. If you are wondering who the ring master is and who the trick monkey is, let me hand you a banana while you ponder the question.
Just a follow up to this. I left my home at 9:30 am to register. I went straight there and straight back. I returned home at 1:30pm. 4 hours in total. I had to take time off of work to register and get there, which is why I endured the wait. Plus, once you’re in line, you just keep going right. I ended up waiting in line for just over 2 hours and 45 minutes and it took him less than 15 to register me. All lives matter, except registrants?
You think that’s bad come from another state , your time should be up and never on the internet and Florida changes everything, lifetime registration and now on the internet without a court order
Register in another county. If you’re on probation, tell your PO what you’re doing and/or get permission (travel permit) to do so. Sounds as though a class action (since this is civil), may be in order.
It so happens that we have two legal challenges to this j process. One is the in-person registration. challenge. The other, the ex post facto plus lawsuit, challenges, among other things, strict liability, which I suspect is one of the drivers behind all this inconvenience.
FAC legal, last I recall for the in-person challenge, they were looking for plaintiffs so that they would have standing to re-file. Is that right?
That is correct – however we will update on that soon.
Does anyone know what the protocol is for Broward County registrants to follow currently?
The first time in this area back in January, I had to drive down to the Courthouse, park in a lot nearby and go to the Felony/SO registration office just around the corner from the entrance. It was a small office and manned by 1 clerk (officer). The whole process took less than 10 minutes, but that could be because I was the only person in at that time.
It’s the same
Just a recent comment on news.
I noticed Mary Kay Letourneau has died at 58.
May she Rest In Peace till her maker gives her a fresh start in a world that is not inhuman . Not understanding her inner battles she was facing during this life.
She was said to be a good person, and I think she was. Also smart, but she had inner battles this world refused to understand at a time when this country was going through demoralizing changes to laws that automatically convicted persons and put them in a class of the worst of the worst, when what she needed was emotional guidance and support so she could feel worth . She had low self esteem and laws made it so she could never be helped but only pushed to be entrapped in her inner inadequacy .
She is no longer in pain.
I also registered in January this year, Pre-COVID, and July of every year. I’ve never waited more than 30 but usually walk right in and get it done and out. Oh plus the hour round trip drive. I do think there is some peace to having the paperwork but if we do it online, couldn’t we just print it out. Phone calls are not efficient either, nor do they provide any documentation. There’s a better way. There’s just not the right people in place to think it through, or who care.
I was there last week to do a transient check in. All you have to do is go inside the courthouse, tell them you are going to criminal or BSO registration. They will give you a piece of paper that will act as a pass since no one is really allowed in the building unless you have official business, go through security and then to the left of the registration office they take your temperature then wait in line unless the registration office is clear of people, then register and leave. Process still takes about 5-10 minutes
They have moved it from the courthouse to the probation office. Enhanced to be even more like probation. Aka punishment!
I report in Broward every three months and in June it was back in the Court House. Like others, my wait was very short as I was only one there. The staff are very pleasant and understanding – maybe because I’ve been going there for over 15 years. They have masks on and added plexiglass shields on the desk. BTW, in Weston, the Sherriff comes by every! month. However since the pandemic began, we haven’t seen any deputies at the house…but no explanation either.
Because it is ANOTHER way to PUNISH US in a way that’s is not considered “PUNISHMENT” by the Idiots that made the requirements involved in the “Registery” ! There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to require a S.O. to report in person to update anything !! Once a year in person is FINE !!!! It’s the S.O. that risks going to prison IF they don’t follow the “Guidelines” , So let that person live how they want !! If they break the rules, They go to prison !! No need to require anyone to report in person every 3 months !! It’s PUNISHMENT PUNISHMENT PUNISHMENT ONLY !!!!
Compassionately I Understand, And this is supposed to be a civilized society. The jungle people had a lot up on today’s so called civilization.
Just did my July registration with Osceola over the phone after my appointment was cancelled and was called by phone to tell me not to come in. Office is closed and no one allowed in the building. I have no proof or paperwork after the call other than her telling me you are now registered over the phone. I hope this doesn’t come back on me.
Hey Jed, try to verify it thru FDLE.
That’s a good idea. Personally, I record every phone with the criminal regimes. They should never be trusted.
In Florida you had better be disclosing to them that you are recording them and get that disclosure and their acknowledgment on the recording. Without permission the recording would be inadmissible in court and it additionally could leave you facing misdemeanor or even 3rd degree felony charges.
https://www.justia.com/50-state-surveys/recording-phone-calls-and-conversations/#florida
Advise them that you are recording and they will watch what they are saying. Makes the whole effort useless. Another example of a law that contributes to the negation of justice.
Yep, you’d want to try to cover yourself if that was legally required. So announce it at the beginning of the call and get their agreement. No honest person should have a problem with it. Of course LE is not honest, so who knows if they would or not.
Regardless of legality or not, I would never have a conversation with the criminal regimes without recording it. It might not be admissible in court but I’d make sure my attorney heard it. I’d make sure everyone else knew I had it recorded also and give an exact transcript of what it said. But if it was illegal, they’d never find any actual proof that I had a recording. They’d know it, but they couldn’t prove it. I would expose them for the liars they are.
Hillsborough County is registering by phone as long as your not moving or traveling. Call Regs Office
This member may be asking for too much…the exercise of common sense. Since the registry makes no sense why not throw in some excess wait time during a “pandamic” to add to the stupidity?
So after all of this nonsense, do people just allow these criminal regimes to come around your homes any time that they feel like it? Every 3 months?!!! That is a pretty good signal that it is okay for the criminal regimes to do it. And that they should continue. They can waste as much of your time and effort as they like. They’ll always be invited to waste more.
If I felt like allowing the criminal regimes to visit my home and family, I’d force them to create one of their fancy “laws” for it. Force them to put it in writing and make it “legal”. Then it won’t be up to law enforcement criminals to do just whatever they feel like doing at the time. They would at least be expected to follow the “law” for a change. And the “law” could be litigated, if necessary.
I never had any interest in being “compliant”. I’m only going to do what I’m forced to do at the point of a gun. These “people” behind it aren’t people and they aren’t my fellow Americans.
Will
Anger is sometimes justified. My complaint is , they should be forced to wear masks like everyone else. They expose themselves to possible contagious situations then they come to my home not wearing masks. If my wife got the virus she would not survive. Who are the real villains in this picture.
I agree completely. But unfortunately it seems like it would be nearly impossible to prove where you caught the virus. If you could prove that you caught it in their facility then I would hope you could sue the living hell out of them. But probably wouldn’t be able to. That is very unfortunate, because if you did catch it there, they are guilty and they should pay consequences.
If I was worried about them coming to my home and possibly infecting me, I wouldn’t let them near me. Not anywhere else either.
Anger is always justified. Just need to act on it.
The reason is to enhance registration so it is as close an analog to probation as possible. Aka punishment!
I went to Pinellas County Spot office this morning. They took my temperature and then went over to a window where she took my name date of birth. She then told me my spot officer will call me to do my registration over the phone. He did forewarn me a few weeks ago that this was probably going to happen
Hoping the entire Sheriff’s Dept contracts the virus.
I would not wish this thing on anyone. Even if I did, and they got infected, it would have collateral consequences on their family members and (especially) county inmates. And it sure as heck wouldn’t result in any better registration laws.
I get the frustration, tho.
Registration remains in-person, but there are safeguards. All personnel wear masks, for ex. There are various screenings at the entrance, and you cannot go through the usual entrance. Instead, you will see a sign directing you to the south courthouse entrance. Screeners will ask whether you have an appointment.
You may need directions from the south entrance, and if you’re bashful using a term like “sex offenders,” you can instead ask for, say, “fingerprinting office” and they can direct you. As usual, St Johns is more efficient and respectful than some other counties’ registration, just be sure to allow yourself a few minutes extra to wind your way through the building. A full printout will be provided upon completion of registration.
I registered in June here in Escambia county and it’s still like it always has been. And it’s still in the sheriff administration’s building. And of course the ol battle ax is still her unhappy out of shape Twinkie eating self with a severe bad attitude. So it’s business as usual in Escambia county.
Looks like we are back to in person registration in Santa Rosa County. I set my appointment for October 1st and was told I had to come in but it was okay to wear a mask. The staff is still the kind and professional pair they have always been. One of the few decent things about all this.
Registries still spreading covid:
https://shadowproof.com/2020/11/02/sex-offense-registry-sweeps-intended-to-boost-support-for-cops-unwittingly-spread-covid-19/
I registered with Brevard County yesterday. It was a breeze! The officer met us at the door, asked if there were any changes since last time, and within 5 minutes gave us a copy of page one of the reporting document…the ‘CYA’ copy…and we were on our way. If one must register that’s the way to do it. I even complimented the officer.