IL: Joliet has plan to force convicted sex offenders to move from their home: Build a park nearby

Joliet City Council members unanimously voted Tuesday night to buy a house, with plans demolish it and turn the land into a park — a tactic they hope will legally allow them to force out convicted sex offenders who are living in an apartment building nearby.

The move has drawn the ire of the company that houses the sex offenders and some legal experts who argue that the city’s actions are inhumane and actually make the public less safe by making it difficult for people who have completed their sentences to find stable housing.

“This has absolutely nothing to do with community safety and everything to do with lawmakers manipulating the law to rid the community of a population they don’t like,” said Adele Nicholas, a civil rights attorney who is an expert in this area. “It’s an outrageous waste of taxpayer money.”

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26 thoughts on “IL: Joliet has plan to force convicted sex offenders to move from their home: Build a park nearby

  • August 5, 2022 at 9:50 am
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    Let me get this straight, the mayor and city council are using the force (and resources) of the city government against 5 individuals in order to intentionally force them into homelessness?

    There is no law against this sort of (very targeted) harrassment and misuse of public funds?

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  • August 5, 2022 at 10:27 am
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    How is it grandfather clauses don’t seem to have an effect? If someone built a playground next door to my house, that would be my argument. I was here first, you should have done YOUR due diligence before putting that playground there.

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    • August 5, 2022 at 11:01 am
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      Ben

      Odd that they can pick and choose what to grandfather in. Back in 1985, Florida raised the drinking age from 19 to 21. However, they allowed those who were already allowed to drink 19 and 20 year old’s, to continue to legally buy alcohol. If you were 18 or younger, you would now have to wait until you were 21.

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  • August 5, 2022 at 10:47 am
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    Not right when are us sex offenders going to stand up and fight back. I need help myself. Someone please help me. I need work and a place. Thank you

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  • August 5, 2022 at 10:48 am
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    They tried that here in Florida to me when passing a proximity to school’s law. My lawyer fought saying you “Cannot retroactively apply making someone move because you don’t like them”. I won the case but lost as it cost me $16 grand to fight it. In the end, I ended up losing the house anyway due to filing bankruptcy after losing my job.

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    • August 5, 2022 at 11:25 am
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      Cherokee, so sorry that happened to you. I also lost my house and everything I worked to achieve since high school. Bankruptcy? Yep. Foreclosure? Yep. Unemployment? Yep. Disdain from neighbors and HOA? Yep. My point is, anyone can and will lose everything besides freedom when charged or convicted of a sex offense. And this article just goes to show how far people will go to make sure we lose (even if we win our own cases).

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      • August 5, 2022 at 5:06 pm
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        Just

        :(…………

        I have no words, only tears.

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    • August 5, 2022 at 1:09 pm
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      I always thought this should be a strong argument.

      If someone owns property, like a home, i don’t see how they can protect it if they can’t be there all the time.

      The right to acquire an protect property is a “INALIENABLE” right. It cannot be taken away for any reason, even public safety.

      Even a rental requires a “writ of possession” to evict someone. Therefore IMO, while renting a renter really has “possession” of the property, and even they should be protected by the government from having to give up their inalienable right, declared within Article 1, Section 2 of the Florida Constitution, to possess and protect property.

      Florida constitution
      http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?submenu=3#A1S02

      “SECTION 2. Basic rights.—All natural persons, female and male alike, are equal before the law and have inalienable rights, among which are the right to enjoy and defend life and liberty, to pursue happiness, to be rewarded for industry, and to acquire, possess and protect property. No person shall be deprived of any right because of race, religion, national origin, or physical disability.

      https://share.america.gov/what-does-it-mean-for-right-to-be-inalienable/
      An inalienable right, said Richard Foltin of the Freedom Forum Institute, is “a right that can’t be restrained or repealed by human laws.” Sometimes called natural rights, inalienable rights “flow from our nature as free people.”
      …” it is a government’s job to protect inalienable rights.”

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      • August 5, 2022 at 1:43 pm
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        I guess I posted that comment about Florida’s constitution. Joiliet is in Illinois.

        The only power the Illinois legislature has in regard to property possession is that they can pass laws which to secure the right to possess property, not take those rights away. Their constitution specifically disallows removal of inalienable rights and assigns the government the duty to protect those rights.

        From Article 1 Section 1 of Illinois’s constitution:
        SECTION 1. INHERENT AND INALIENABLE RIGHTS
        All men are by nature free and independent and have
        certain inherent and inalienable rights among which are life,
        liberty and the pursuit of happiness. To secure these rights
        and the protection of property, governments are instituted
        among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the
        governed.

        https://www.ilga.gov/commission/lrb/con1.htm#:~:text=INHERENT%20AND%20INALIENABLE%20RIGHTS%20All,and%20the%20pursuit%20of%20happiness.

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      • August 5, 2022 at 2:22 pm
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        I agree with what you have said. I just want to point out that the constitution says any “natural” person. You know they would take it to court to declare us “un-natural”.

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        • August 7, 2022 at 9:10 am
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          fyi…no such legel term as unnatural person

          https://legaldictionary.net/natural-person/

          The term “natural person” refers to a living human being, with certain rights and responsibilities under the law. By contrast, a “legal person,” or an “artificial person,” is a group of people that is considered by law to be acting as a single individual.

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    • August 6, 2022 at 11:01 am
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      Cherokeejack, This is why we fight. I am so sorry this had to even happen. I am glad you won. We all appreciate your fight on that and that may very well have helped people you don’t know about. And those people will not know, because of you, that they didn’t face the same problem. We change things in ways we don’t always ever know about. So thank you for that. I hope things are better for you now and we will all keep up the good fight.

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      • August 6, 2022 at 5:15 pm
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        Ditto!

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      • August 6, 2022 at 7:31 pm
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        Mp

        What is that old saying “Nothing is for sure except Death and Taxes”?

        I have moved 11 times since the house got taken away. And seems each year I moved, new laws made it harder and harder to find somewhere, where I was not breaking the law, just trying to “Exist”.

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    • August 6, 2022 at 8:35 pm
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      Cherokee its sad that many go thru all this registry crap.

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      • August 7, 2022 at 11:46 am
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        Saddles

        Sad is not the word I would have used. Disgusting and inhumane comes to mind. I think you are being a bit too nice. You can get over being sad. It is hard to look past disgust and inhumane treatment and behavior by any and all government agencies towards us. Farm animals get treated better than us in some ways.

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  • August 5, 2022 at 12:41 pm
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    Bad thought of the day…

    I hope they do it and then it gets changed but a lawsuit. It’s almost like they magically create a park to keep people away. I think I heard of something like this recently…

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  • August 5, 2022 at 2:01 pm
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    This is what ignorant tyrants generally end up doing. This has happened in the past. When are the ‘yellow stars’ coming out? The time is coming that registered citizens are going to have to take a stand…even if it is a violent stand. No one wants to but what is the alternative? Facts have no impact as the Brevard County commissioners’ meeting was to prove. Bureaucrats are usually better at creating problems than they are at fixing them

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    • August 5, 2022 at 5:03 pm
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      Capt

      My ancestors had to fight as well. That includes all native Americans not just the Cherokee Nation. When talks fell through, the powerful started taking land and killing many natives, kidnapping children to teach them English and doing things I cannot type on here to the women.

      Then later on it was the freed slaves who were treated badly. The U.S just does not seem to have a great record on treating people like human beings. And no one can tell me to “Go back to my country” because my people have been living here for 1000s of years. This is my country and am ashamed of what has happened to it and become.

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      • August 5, 2022 at 7:08 pm
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        Jack, I full well understand. That is why I am such a supporter of FAC and NARSOL. It’s not a battle that is easily won, but one that must be won. We will need to expose some politicians for what they really are. If a person does not have the opportunity to defend him or herself, then the verdict is always guilty. In time we will bring down the Brevard County commissioners by exposing them for whom they really are.

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  • August 5, 2022 at 2:40 pm
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    NewDay Apartments

    NewDay Apartments provides safe and stable housing for registrants, within the bounds of the law and under the supervision of the Illinois Department of Corrections. NewDay Apartment’s commitment to housing registrants fills an urgent need and makes the community safer by providing stable housing to individuals who are working to rebuild their lives and contribute positively to the community.

    Response to Mayor’s Comments/Plan for Park

    The Mayor of Joliet’s suggestion that he will take steps to try to shut down a business operating lawfully within the community is unwarranted and deeply concerning.

    Moreover, the Mayor’s suggestion that the City will buy a nearby property and turn it into a park to put the registrants of NewDay in violation of Illinois law is not only troubling, but also will prove to be futile. Most individuals required to register as a sex offender are not subject to the 500-foot restriction referenced by the Mayor. Adding a park within 500 feet of NewDay may change the name of the tenants at NewDay, but it will not stop NewDay from housing registrants there.

    Despite previous comments by Joliet public officials, Joliet is not a “dumping ground for Will County communities.” The small number of registrants living at Cora St, which has gathered so much attention recently, is minimal when compared to the number of registrants in Joliet and throughout the state of Illinois. In fact, there are more than 30,000 people on the Illinois sex offender registry, and those registrants reside in every community throughout the state.

    Housing is a Basic Right and the Foundation for Safe Community

    Housing is a basic right and the foundation for a positive, productive life and a safe community. People who have been held accountable deserve the opportunity to rebuild and contribute to society. NewDay Apartments houses registrants who seek to lead peaceful, quiet lives, to reconnect with their families, and to work towards a better future.

    Highly restrictive state residency laws and reluctance by landlords to provide housing for registrants leads to homelessness and instability in the community. Housing providers like NewDay Apartments provide an essential public service by giving people who have been held accountable the opportunity to establish homes and live law-abiding lives.

    Moreover, the individuals residing at 1000 Cora are under the supervision of the Department of Corrections, which means they are attending mandatory therapy, must wear GPS monitors, and receive frequent visits from a parole agent. Additionally, NewDay Apartments has a selective screening process and security measures in place to protect their residents and the community, including security cameras on the premises.

    Clustered Housing is Safer

    The contention that placing registrants together in a single location is somehow more dangerous than placing them at different addresses in a neighborhood, is ill-informed. In fact, clustered housing has been shown to increase community safety. It allows for more effective and efficient resource management by local law enforcement (police/parole) and it reduces the overall number of neighborhoods impacted. A single officer can visit 5 registrants at Cora St., for example, in the same time it takes to see one registrant living alone. Additionally, allowing specialized housing locations such as those provided by NewDay ensures that registrants are living in housing units run by landlords who are selective, well-informed, and provide appropriate oversight. For example, at NewDay, all new tenants are assigned a NewDay team member who ensures they are seeking employment, keeping their surroundings clean, and living law-abiding lives. Moreover, it has been demonstrated that when registrants live together, they actually are incentivized to support their fellow registrants on a law-abiding path and to hold each other accountable, in part, because they know how fragile their housing situations are. If one registrant were to get in trouble with the law, for example, all registrants at that building would risk losing their extremely difficult-to-find housing.

    According to the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children, the number of registrants in the United States is increasing by about 5% annually, so the problem of how and where to house registrants is only growing bigger over time. Endless incarceration (i.e. “lock ’em up & throw away the key”) is not the answer: it is unconstitutional, prohibitively expensive, and disproportionate. Moreover, forcing registrants into homelessness by taking away stable housing actually increases community risk by making it difficult for local law enforcement to locate registrants. Further homelessness forces registrants into unstable living circumstances and onto the streets in the exact way concerned neighbors do not want. The only successful and practical solution is to provide safe, affordable housing in specialized environments such as what NewDay offers.
    Sara Garber
    Attorney at Law

    SOURCE: https://www.wjol.com/newday-apartments-issues-statement-to-wjol-regarding-sex-offender-housing-in-joliet/

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  • August 16, 2022 at 8:21 am
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    I was convicted 31 years ago and I’m now homeless in Joliet. I’m so lost and scared and don’t know what to do. Suicide is starting to sound l8ke my best option. I don’t want to live this life anymore.

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    • August 16, 2022 at 3:29 pm
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      F.A.C

      Please have someone reach out to John. When one of our commenters makes one of these pleas, it is very serious.

      John, do not give up. Do not let them have power over you. It sucks but all you can do for now is take it one day at a time. Maybe find a group somewhere where someone can pray for you. No matter how bleak things seem, there is always someone out there who cares about you.

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      • August 16, 2022 at 6:01 pm
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        We have – We sent his information to Illinois Voices and an attorney in IL.
        Thanks for the concern, Jack. I’m surprised more people didn’t chime in.
        I hope John joins our community so that he knows he’s not alone.

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        • August 16, 2022 at 8:26 pm
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          It is actions like this that encourage me to stick with FAC in spite of my religious and political convictions not being appreciated. If John was in Florida I know of a church that could help him.

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    • April 1, 2024 at 7:04 pm
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      I am so sorry man but as others stated don’t let them get the best of you I’m going through the same thing pretty much

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