FAC Sends Letter to Florida Sheriffs re: Travel
After receiving a response from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, FAC sent letters to all 67 Sheriff’s Offices in Florida to hopefully correct their practice of requiring notice whenever you leave the state (without establishing a new residence).
A copy of the letter is below.
If your sheriff’s office continues to require you notify them anytime you leave the state (without establishing a new residence), please let us know. If your sheriff’s office imposes additional registration requirements or the disclosure of additional information which you believe is not required under Florida Statutes, please let us know.
Thanks for sending the letter.
Thanks to all those at FAC,for all you do.
Respectfully
Sailtime
So here is the $64,000 question. Are we required to abide by the stringent Florida laws regarding establishment of a “temporary“ or “transient“ residency in another state or by the laws of that state? For example do you have to register in Georgia in addition to notifying Florida he stay three days in Georgia or does the normal Georgia 14/30 day rule apply? I know what some Florida sheriffs department might tell you, but what is the correct answer? The most recent position of the Panellus sheriffs office is if you leave your permanent residence for three or more days at any time, you have to notify them and register your “new” address.
Florida law covers registration in Florida. If you establish, by Florida’s definition, a temporary residence in Virginia, you must register that temporary Virginia residence in Florida. Whether you would also register that residence in Virginia, depends on Virginia law. But a Florida sheriff cannot compel you to register in another state. That’s up to the laws of that state.
My own county is more clear about this. Whenever I am registering a temporary residence, they remind me that they will NOTIFY the receiving jurisdiction, and that I should be sure to identify the registration requirements of that jurisdiction and register there IF their laws require.
Law of the state you’re visiting that requires registration ( as a temporary resident) based on the x amount of days in their state laws you’ll be there. If that takes place, Florida wants you to report it 48 hours prior to establishing that in another state.
If a stubborn LEO refuses to follow FDLE guidelines, you might refer him/her to the Brevard County Commissioners who tried to violate the Constitutional rights of citizens. We have to let these tyrants know that we are sick and tired of their power grab and that we will no longer stand for it.
Thank you FAC volunteers!!!
By the way, the Brevard ‘gruesome three’ are just getting started. If these tyrants will not listen to and respond to facts, we will put them out of business. Sorry if these ‘politics’ offend anyone!
A few years ago, I took a trip to Virginia…Virginia Beach to be specific. I went into the sheriff’s office to register and was asked by one of the deputies, “What do you want me to do?” Florida is on a different wavelength than many other states.
FAC, you stated, ‘if your sheriff’s office imposes additional registration requirements or the disclosure of additional information which you believe is not required under Florida Statutes, please let us know.’
I am letting you know that my county is doing something that requires more frequent registration of travel.
It has to do with our favorite topic, the definition of a day.
Specifically, in my county, a day is an overnight.
If you reside for just two full calendar days or < 72 hours, if it’s three nights, it’s three days.
Check in late Friday night, check out early Monday morning, that’s three days, subject to registration.
In all the depositions, I don’t recall this definition of a day.
I’d be interested in knowing from members in other counties, what definition of day has been communicated to them by their registration offices. What triggers registration of travel?
Thanks for doing this FAC…
Who do we contact when LE trespasses on your property without a warrant in order to perform a random address verification?
Or when they circle the neighbor’s house and peek in bedroom windows at midnight attempting to make contact?
Reported it to the sheriff’s office.
Of course they back their own.
Sad as it is to say, I highly doubt you get a response regarding any local ordinances (pretty sure there are none) nor a simply acknowledgement of receipt of the letter. Most will toss it in the oval filing cabinet and act like they never received it unless it was sent registered mail.
Sorry you feel that way. FDLE responded and so have many sheriff’s offices in the past. The mail becomes a public record under.
Is the floowing a correct interpretation of the Permaneny and Temporary address rule:?
I own a Home in Florida, I consider it my Permanent Residence, am I correct in assuming if that Residence address, which is also on My Florida Drivers License Is therefore my LEGAL Permanent Address? Why cannot there be some simple text working on THe FDLE form that staates that simply? I consider myself pretty smart but cannot untangle the gooblygook of the working on the FDLE forms. Is the Legaleeze working that spreads confusion done intentionally?
Robert, I have and currently am taking courses on the Constitution and how our legal system handles constitutional questions. I have just about come to the conclusion that no matter what politicians decide to do, the acts are both constitutional and unconstitutional, depending on the agenda involved. That is the state of politics today in the United States.
Thanks FAC!
When I did lived in Pinellas county Florida and I traveled to another state for a vacation they made me give a notice that I was going to another state and I had to give them my travel status
Wow never seen it or used it never told about it over 10 years here!. Well definitely want to make sure Pinellas County gets this letter! I know the County is separated with different officers but wonder if this is something some people are doing because of status or a particula officer.
Pinellas county Florida has a form any time you leave the state you have to tell them when you are leaving and coming back
Dear friends, I’m sorry to be late to this comment party but I was traveling and had no internet access (!).
I certainly appreciate FAC’s great work on this matter. However, regardless of what FDLE said in it’s reply to Gail’s letter, I myself will always recommend that you report travel in advance to your local sheriff, even if you don’t intend to establish any temporary or transient address while traveling. Why? Because reporting travel keeps you out of potential trouble while traveling. I don’t want to get pulled over by some idiot deputy in Mississippi and have that guy call FDLE or my local sheriff department and ask “Did y’all know this pervert was traveling out-of-state?” for fear that whatever idiot picks up the phone might answer “No, and we think that’s a registry violation! Arrest that pervert, he’s an absconder!”
I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to spend weeks or months rotting in jail and spending thousands of dollars on legal fees trying to straighten out a mess like that. It’s far easier to keep your local sheriff department happy by reporting your travel, even when you know it’s not legally required.
My discomfort with Bruce’s advice is that one would be simply volunteering information to law enforcement, and that in itself runs contrary to typical defense attorney advice— ‘don’t talk to the police!’
I am a 29-year military veteran, an American citizen, and not on probation. I reregister as required. When I travel it is none of the government’s damn business. The tyrannical ‘comrades’ can go fornicate themselves. I’m tired of this BS. It’s time to take a stand!
Bruce. You are a good man
But that is exactly why we are where we are especially with the red letter I.D. If we continue to Llow any Law agency dictate there own personal feelings and beliefs, we fall right into their hands. Resist, do what the Law all9ws and says and fight for anything else.
Other than my required re-registration, I live a normal life and if LE can find me doing a criminal act, then let them have at it. I did not serve my country for 29 years just to let some do-gooder politicians require me to cower in a corner for the rest of my life. My victim and I made up several years ago. She and her family have moved to Brevard County, and we get together frequently. So let some of these politicians play their games, I will not let them destroy my life in the process. We have to take a stand and let them know ‘enough is enough’. The Brevard County commissioners know that some of us will not stand for their shenanigans. They serve the people; the people do not serve them.
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If I listened to all the nay sayers and buried myself at home after each problem or travel issue I would not be sitting in a Tropical Paradise living restriction free! I continue to do what I can remotely to make sure when I do travel back to the USA I am not punished with more and more restrictions. If we sit back and do nothing allow LE to make up further restrictions that are not legal you will see that they are implemented by default because of our lack to question and confront. It’s really getting out of hand with continuing punishment after serving our time.
Good Day
Just wondering – has there been any response to letters sent to the sheriffs?