FAC Weekly Update 2023-10-16-Ex Post Facto II Lawsuit Trial
Dear Members and Advocates,
There are no words to express the drive and professionalism of your FAC Board of Directors, County Coordinators, active members and advocates that work tirelessly on behalf of all registered citizens and their affected loved ones. Of course, none of their efforts would be possible without your help, donations, and encouragement, which is never taken for granted.
As FAC grows, we are able to be in more places at once. In the past week alone, FAC Board members have made appearances in Virginia (Dept of Corrections), Los Angeles (ACSOL Conference), Tallahassee (Meeting with Legislators), and Switzerland (Gail’s plea to the United Nations Human Rights Committee) while others stayed back to maintain daily communications and operations.
This week we have County Coordinators and active members visiting more legislators, speaking at Delegation meetings, appearing in front of city councils, and sponsoring an information table at the Florida Restorative Justice Conference.
In any given week, you can find FAC at someone’s table to ensure our voices are being heard. On the November 2 Membership Call, you will hear from these attendees as they share a recap of each significant meeting and the network connections we are building.
What’s next? Our attention is now on Tallahassee. The long awaited Ex Post Facto II Lawsuit is scheduled for trial in the Northern District court in less than 30 days. Beginning November 6, there will be a team of attorneys and expert witnesses in Tallahassee along with the Plaintiff. The actual trial date has not been confirmed, so we anticipate keeping a team of active members rotating their stay in Tallahassee between November 6th and November 17th. That means, while waiting for the trial to begin, we will be scheduling teams of 2-3 persons to meet with specific Florida Senate and House Representatives that will be in their Tallahassee offices. FAC has also planned a Meet and Greet on Saturday November 11 to bring more local members together.
If you live in the Tallahassee area and wish to join the Lobby team, or attend the Meet and Greet on Saturday November 11 from 1-4pm (location will be provided with RSVP), please email membership@floridaactioncommittee.org or leave a message at 833-273-7325 Option 1.
For the out-of-towners, if you are able to stay 1-2 days in Tallahassee especially the week of November 13 we have limited free lodging and limited reserved hotel rooms. We want to ensure that members will be present to show their support in the courtroom, as well as meet with representatives.
Year 2023 is not over; there are more meetings and events planned. But it is equally important to schedule time to relax and fit in some recreation. We are expanding the Meet and Greets to include outdoor spaces, fishing, boating, BBQs and camping sites. Watch the Announcements for events, or contact the membership team to schedule one in your area.
Let’s keep the Action going in Florida Action Committee (FAC).
Sincerely,
The Florida Action Committee (FAC)
membership@floridaactioncommittee.org
833-273-7325 Option 1
ANNOUCEMENTS
Donation Request – Funds are needed for the Ex Post Facto II Lawsuit. Any amount is appreciated to reach our goal of $25,000 this year. You can donate online at https://floridaactioncommittee.org/donations/. For Tax Deductible donations, email membership@floridaactioncommittee,org or leave message at 833-273-7325 Option 1.
Monday Night Support Group – Open to registered citizens and family members, every Monday at 8pmET. Call 760-548-9898 to participate in a group support call facilitated by FAC Regional Coordinators. Find comfort, motivation and encouragement with other members in this no-judgement zone as they share common concerns and interests.
Monthly Membership Call – Thu Nov 2 at 8pm ET. 319-527-3487. Topic: Recap of Geneva, ACSOL, and other significant meetings. If you have any problem connecting to the call for free, you can text CALL ME to 319-527-3487 for a call back from Free Conference Call and you will be connected to the meeting at no charge.
New Member Orientation Call – Thu Nov 9 at 8pm ET. 319-527-3487. NO Agenda. Call in to learn more about the organization, volunteer opportunities, where to find support, get resources and referrals, or just share information. If you have any problem connecting for free, you can text CALL ME to 319-527-3487 for a call back from Free Conference Call and you will be connected to the meeting at no charge.
Family Support Group – Sat Nov 18 from 11am-1pm. By Invitation only for non-registered family members with loved ones on the Registry. Must be an FAC member. To participate, contact membership@floridaactioncommittee.org or call 833-273-7325, Option 1.
SHINE Women’s Group [Women Forced to Register]. For details and more information, contact Danell at fac.region4b@gmail.com or leave message at 772-494-1947.
Legislative Delegation Meetings – Check schedule for meeting near you. This is your opportunity to speak publicly on issues that concern your family and our community. For help in preparing a 3-minute speech, or to learn more about the meetings, join the legislative team by contacting info@floridaactioncommittee.org or leave message at call 833-273-7325.
MEET and GREETS
Sat Oct 21–Palatka (Putnam) – noon- 3:00pm – Enjoy an Outdoor BBQ meeting on the property of a member. Bring your fishing pole and lawn chairs. For details and location RSVP to membership@floridaactioncommittee.org or 833-273-7325 Option 1.
Sat Oct 21–Spring Hill (Hernando) 2-4pm – RSVP to hernandoFACcoord@gmail.com or call 352-606-0187
Sat Nov 4–Clearwater (Pinellas) 1-4pm RSVP to fac.region6a@gmail.com or call 217-218-2749.
Sat Nov 4–Jacksonville (Duval) 3-5:30pm RSVP fac.duval@gmail.com or call/text (904) 300-0109.
Sat Nov 4-Apopka (Orange) – Noon -3pm RSVP membership@floridaactioncommittee.org or 833-273-7325 Option 1.
Sat Nov 4-Miami (Miami-Dade) – Time TBD – RSVP after 10/20/23 to Danell at fac.region4b@gmail.com or call 772-494-1947 OR Dessie at fac.region4c@gmail.com or call 772-226-0304.
Sat Nov 11–Tallahassee (Leon) 1-4pm RSVP membership@floridaactioncommittee.org or 833-273-7325 Option 1.
Sat Nov 18–Sebring (Highlands) 1-4pm fac.highlands2@gmail.com or leave message at 863-256-3026
Sat Nov 18–Hollywood (Broward) 2-4pm RSVP membership@floridaactioncommittee.org or 833-273-7325 Option 1.
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I just received an email from FDLE about my case. I can’t believe what they are trying to pull. They are saying I moved here from New Jersey in 2006 ( I registered on Dec. 2, 1998 in Lee County when I bought my home ) so they are saying they are able to enforce the 2003 Federal laws on my 1992 conviction. These people don’t have a clue what Lee County Sheriff Dept. has done. They hid my retroactive civil judgement paperwork from FDLE. I can’t believe they are getting away with crap like this on us.
I hope you have copies
Can/should an RC carry a high powered air pistol for close up protection?
To my knowledge you can not have one of those. If I am wrong let me know.
In Florida air rifles are not considered a firearm. If you’re not on probation, I’m pretty sure you can legally own one. There’s also the possibility of owning an antique gun that doesn’t fit the legal definition of firearm. Caveat: I’m not an attorney.
Robert
I think this is something you should speak to a local lawyer about. Asking keyboard lawyers on here can get you bad advice and every state, county and city have different takes on what a statue actually does and does not mean.
CherokeeJack >>> isn’t that the truth here in Flordaa. They seem to make up their own laws as they go an until they are found wrong in a court of law costing you tens of thousands to defend it against them they make your life hell. Its coming my friend, did you read what FDLE is pulling? I was like you gotta be kidding, where is my paperwork from Dec. 1998 when i moved here? They are saying I established residency is 2006 so they can enforce 2003 federal laws on me. You wouldn’t believe the email I got back from them. Now I’m taking this to New Jersey an showing my Attorney James Maynard up there what they are doing. I thought about going to Furlong with it but I think he screwed us who are retroactive already. Last I checked in the Oxford Dictionary public humiliation definition fits perfectly, punishment on a prisoner or offender. They granted us who were convicted before the registry laws Due Process under State an Federal constitutional law hand down a judgement of registering 15 years only not for public notification an then 3 years later make it public record using new laws and now saying it’s now for life.
Allan
There was NO registry when my incident took place, no registry when I was arrested, no registry when I was sentenced and no registry until the month I got released. So yes it was retroactively applied to me and many others.
I am not on any paperwork anymore, haven’t been for 20 years now, yet law enforcement comes by my house whenever they like and stand in the street and yell commands to me so the neighbors are sure to know a sex offender lives next to them.
CherokeeJack >>> I remember when it all started in NJ back in October 31 1994. I was sitting in ADTC going OMG were gonna get killed being from here an they won’t care. I was released in Feb. of 1995 an required to register pending Constitutionality in the first state we were sweating it. Then on 7/25/95 retroactive was granted due process. ( 3rd Cir affirmed it ) I took it to court an the court judgement was registry only not for public notification. I moved here in 1998 an that went out the window. Now they lost 7 years an said I first registered in 2006 so they can enforce 2003 Federal laws on me. I’m like you gotta be kidding me… I had a real good feeling it was the county who hid all of this hoping I would move away. They want to fight me all the way cause they didn’t know the truth. She went crazy on me when I told here I have this Civil Judgement.
I am NOT an attorney, you could spend the money and talk to an attorney, which is going to read the law to you, but he is not going to tell you what to do. Here are my facts,
The definition on the federal code:
“3) The term “firearm” means (A) any weapon (including a starter gun) which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; (B) the frame or receiver of any such weapon; (C) any firearm muffler or firearm silencer; or (D) any destructive device. Such term does not include an antique firearm.”
In short to classify as a firearm, it must combine an explosive of sorts to eject a projectile. Compressed air is not considered an explosive device/element or cartridge. I own several high power air rifles, and have had a few incidents with my local law enforcement while using them in my farm. Local law enforcement can chose to confiscate them for any justifiable reason, but I have not had that experience.
So far in Florida there are no restrictions. Reference Florida Statute 790.22 on BB gun restrictions. This could all change with the stroke of a pen at any moment. But a word of warning, even my most powerful air rifle, rated at 1500 fps on .25 cal, I would not consider it a deterrent, it is mostly a nuisance for someone bent on causing you some serious harm. Much less a pistol which tops at 500 fps, unless you go for a high end PCP but those look more like a rifle.
By the same token you could legally own and “antique” firearm, and also a firearm for which bullet cartridges are no longer available/manufactured. But I personally wouldn’t take a chance.
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=definition+of+terrorism&f=treesort&num=161#:~:text=(3)%20The%20term%20%22firearm,(D)%20any%20destructive%20device.
Old Karen >>> I sure do it came in an email. I remember when these new laws went into effect here when they classified us. I was like where is my Due Process? I have an actual Tier 1 civil court judgement they refused to honor that put me on the registry from New Jersey retroactively. ( I had due process ) I was convicted before 9/13/1994 They can’t just create new laws an enforce them retroactive on us without any form of due process. The deputy was like there is no process your an offender already. Now I can see why people call it Flordaa
Can anyone explain, just very briefly, what happened with Ex Post Facto II? In May there was a motion for summary judgment, and I know many people submitted documentation that was needed to – I think – rebutt claims made by the state? Did the motion for summary judgment get denied? Did the attorneys’ response overcome whatever claims the state was making? I’m not at all clear on the process or what has transpired since May.
Yes, a refresher would be great to remind us about the case and what issues the judge will decided.