CALL TO ACTION #4 for HB 1085 – Moved to new committee: Infrastructure Strategies Committee
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Major Concerns About This Bill:
- The bill states that all driver’s licenses and identification cards for people on the registry “shall have printed in the color red all information otherwise required to be printed on the front of the license or identification card.”
- This bill has now passed two committees and is in the Infrastructure Strategies Committee.
- Even though the court decisions for the Louisiana and Alabama cases have been sent to the analysts, it appears that the legislators are not allowing the analysts to include this information in their analyses.
PLEASE Do the Following:
- Call all members of the Infrastructure Strategies Committee.
- Whether you talk to a person or voicemail, you must give your name and contact information (phone numbers work). Remember that all voicemails are checked, so you can call after hours.
- State that you OPPOSE the part of the bill that would require the red lettering on driver’s licenses for people on the registry.
- Mention that you are a constituent if you happen to live in the representative’s district.
- Give two brief reasons why you oppose the red lettering on the licenses.
- Ask family members and friends to also call to oppose the red lettering.
Talking Points:
- The U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear Louisiana’s appeal of a decision against its 2006 law requiring that people on the sex offense registry have their driver’s license or identification card marked with “SEX OFFENDER” in orange letters. The Louisiana Supreme Court said the marking was compelled speech and could not be justified by the state’s interest in protecting public safety.
- In 2019, a federal judge struck down Alabama’s sex offense registration law that required registrants to carry a driver’s license or official ID with “CRIMINAL SEX OFFENDER” emblazoned in red.
- If this bill is passed as is, will Florida also be facing a costly lawsuit?
- Schools are using visitor management systems, such as Raptor, to compare a visitor’s driver’s license against a sex offense database.
- Senator Pizzo brought up in the Infrastructure & Tourism Appropriations Subcommittee that theme parks and other places already scan the barcode on the licenses which picks up whether or not the license holder is on the registry. His implication was that this procedure makes the red markings unnecessary.
- There are currently 52 registry requirements for people on the sex offense registry. Every Florida legislator should have received a copy of the timeline of these registry requirements that started off with 3 in 1997 and have grown to 52 by 2020. Failure to fulfill any of these requirements could lead up to 5 years of imprisonment, even for the thousands of Florida registrants who are now law-abiding citizens.
- While there is no research showing a need for the red lettering on licenses, there is an abundance of research showing that the sexual recidivism rate for people with a past sex offense is lower than that for all other crimes, with the exception of murder.
- Research has shown that at 90% or more of FUTURE sex crimes will be committed by people NOT on the registry.
We strongly suggest you DO NOT THREATEN LAWSUITS AS THE THREATS DO NOT DETER THE LEGISLATORS. IT DOES TEND TO ANTAGONIZE THEM AND DISMISSES THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE REST OF YOUR MESSAGE.
Phone Numbers for the Infrastructure Strategies Committee:
- Bobby Payne (Chair – R): (850) 717-5020
Bobby.Payne@myfloridahouse.gov
- Sam Garrison (Vice Chair – R): (850) 717-5011
Sam.Garrison@myfloridahouse.gov
- David Smith (Republican Committee Whip – R): (850) 717-5038
David.Smith@myfloridahouse.gov
- Christine Hunschofsky (Democratic Ranking Member – D): (850) 717-5095
C.Hunschofsky@myfloridahouse.gov
- Robert Andrade (R): (850) 717-5002
Alex.Andrade@myfloridahouse.gov
- Adam Botana (R): (850) 717-5080
Adam.Botana@myfloridahouse.gov
- Robert Brackett (R): (850) 717-5034
Robert.Brackett@myfloridahouse.gov
- James Buchanan (R): (850) 717-5074
James.Buchanan@myfloridahouse.gov
- Hillary Cassel (D): (850) 717-5101
Hillary.Cassel@myfloridahouse.gov
- Linda Chaney (R): (850) 717-5061
Linda.Chaney@myfloridahouse.gov
- Anna Eskamani (D): (850) 717-5042
Anna.Eskamani@myfloridahouse.gov
- Tom Fabricio (R): (850) 717-5110
Tom.Fabricio@myfloridahouse.gov
- Michael Gottlieb (D): (850) 717-5102
Michael.Gottlieb@myfloridahouse.gov
- Sam Killebrew (R): (850) 717-5048
Sam.Killebrew@myfloridahouse.gov
- Johanna Lopez (D): (850) 717-5043
Johanna.Lopez@myfloridahouse.gov
- Fiona McFarland (R): (850) 717-5073
Fiona.McFarland@myfloridahouse.gov
- James Mooney, Jr. (R): (850) 717-5120
- Angela Nixon (D): (850) 717-5013
Angie.Nixon@myfloridahouse.gov
- Susan Plasencia (R): (850) 717-5037
Susan.Plasencia@myfloridahouse.gov
- Felicia Robinson (D): (850) 717-5104
Felicia.Robinson@myfloridahouse.gov
- Jason Shoaf (R): (850) 717-5007
Jason.Shoaf@myfloridahouse.gov
- Cyndi Stevenson (R): (850) 717-5018
Cyndi.Stevenson@myfloridahouse.gov
- Josie Tomkow (R): (850) 717-5051
Josie.Tomkow@myfloridahouse.gov
- Keith Truenow (R): (850) 717-5026
Keith.Truenow@myfloridahouse.gov
Every call gets heard and tallied. Every respectful conversation with a staffer is an excellent opportunity to change a mind about our community with someone who has direct contact with a lawmaker. YOUR EFFORTS DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE!
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At what point does the Supreme court finally step in and say “Enough is enough”? If this passes, (And it seems it will) the possibilities are limitless.
Bumper stickers on our cars bumpers stating we are on the registry.
Having to tell our doctors offices we are a registrant.
Having special hours we are allowed to shop anywhere where the public is present.
Not being allowed in public restrooms.
Have other forms of I.D marked like our credit cards, our insurance cards, etc.
And to fight it if it passes could take years. And someone please tell me why this does not teeter on compelled speech?
Jack I pledge 100$ heck $150 toward an injunction. And it is compelled speech. It is illegal under due process as well as the equal protection clause. Bank robbers do not have a marking that a bank teller could see!!! I have already told my wife this is my Alamo if this passes I’ll be looking at filing an injunction and or moving out of state which is sad been in the same house since 2003. Great neighbors never any issues and have raised 3 daughters here but as I said This is my ALAMO
If the bill is passed and the deadline to get the new license is July 1st. How many days can we go before July 1st to get the new license? Can we go as soon as the bill is passed? Do we only get two days before July 1st. What is the protocol on that?
Great questions, Jennifer. Do they have to notify us or is this a strict liability law where theres no defense to not knowing and not complying?
Great. Need more people like you to financially support. I’ve contributed $2,800 to FAC Legal fund.
Yes, they will get lots of calls against this bill. Why do they ignore them?
They say they “received lots of calls on this bill” but do not say they were all against the bill, making it seemingly that the calls favored the bill.
I listened to the house committee and every one of them just said “my office has received lot of calls on this”, but did not say every single call was against the bill….
Are we preparing to ask the courts for an injunction, then preparing to litigate unconstitutionality? I mean really, we live in the USA. Not Russia, Germany, or some other place. What’s next? Will we have to wear the star of David on our lapels?
Richard
I would proudly wear the star of David even though I am not Jewish.
We will get a star of shame. Not a star on Hollywood Blvd. Not a star named after us. We won’t become a movie star. Maybe the mark of the beast? We are supposed to reject that mark. I mean come on, the mark on the license is red just like Satan’s jumpsuit.
Only 7 democrats on the committee. Now I know how the Spartans felt facing the entire Persian army.
Rick, do you know how everyone on the committee voted, both Republicans and Democrats? Is this published somewhere? I’ve seen members of both parties harm us.
Time to start looking for a lawyer to assist with an injunction.
I have already pledged $100. RI had its 1000 foot rule enjoined for over 8 years before the court found in favor or the registrant so if they can do it so can we
I agree.
This does not surprises me. I try to optimistic, but, being as human as I am, I commented to my wife that in the past (before I met her) I thought it was better be dead than going through all the crap, stupid requirements and awful and constant stigmatization we live day by day.
To be clear…I don’t think like that anymore.
I strongly oppose the passing of HB1085 in Florida. I am a resident of North Carolina, but I have have family and friends in Florida that I visit regularly. All of the research I have seen supports the fact that the recidivism rate for sexual offense crimes, is the lowest of any crime, except for murder. In other states, such as Alabama and Louisiana the courts have found it unconstitutional to initiate red letter laws [moderator: citation recommended] and I implore Florida to defeat this bill.
Well, if it passed two committees already, then it’s practically a done deal. I’m afraid other states will now follow suit with this shaming measure.
The media will only care to cover this dystopian nonsense when a bill that requires “TRANS PERSON” to be added to the front of their licenses. Lawmakers had decades to perfect their hate against us as the perfect boogeyman, do you really think they don’t want to branch out and demonize the TRANS people too? Ha. If you think this ends with us then I have a bridge to sell you.
To: Facts
Jewish people had to wear a star and many were killed during WWII.
Supposed witches got burned at the stake and killed.
African Americans Were kidnapped, enslaved, beaten, hung, and often killed.
100 Years ago, Women were not allowed to vote.
100 years ago, Asian people who came here for work were treated like dirt and had almost no rights.
Native American tribes, including Eskimo/Inuit people were shunned and had land taken away.
So the question is, WHY are we going backwards in time regarding rights and justice? Have we learned nothing from the past?
Called and emailed all of them! And followed with a donation to General Legal Fund. If any of you can afford it please donate
I think many people will donate if this bill actually gets passed and goes into law. I will definitely be donating.
I will give absolutely as much as I can afford toward a legal fight. I hope that FAC opens up a donor legal fund the moment this passes (if it does). I understand the importance of putting up a fight because the alternative is surrender. And yes, last year we managed to stop the “anywhere you happen to be three days or more each year for at least a second” bill at the last minute, when they miraculously removed that wording. But I honestly believe that the courts are our only real hope in Florida and I urge everyone to give us much as you possibly can. FAC and legal fights are the only reason we can even use the internet right now in Florida, if people remember that one from a few years ago.
I would be willing to put $100 towards representation as well. The only chance we have is to get an injunction. If we can stall it long enough to get a judge to look at it for the constitutionality of the law. Everyone of you have made the same comments in multiple posts about how we are being abused according to law. {MODERATED due to unnecessarily politically polarizing in addition to lacking evidence. If you’re gonna blame one party, at least back it up with proof and it’ll be approved.} If you look back all the way to 2003 it was the red side that steered us to this end.
Just like the Ex Post Facto challenge, we are going to have to fight this too! Pony up, we need a lawyer and fast, {MODERATED disrespectful and polarizing}
I firmly agree.
This is ridiculous. We should not have to wave a flag everywhere we go saying we are a RSO. Putting it out there high. We already paid the price. We did our time. How are we to get a second chance at life. Recover from our mistake. The system is messed up. I pray we can fight this and not allow this.
Good question and the issue is that you have to make an appointment at DMV and then within 48 hours report in person to the spot unit to show them you illegally branded I’d card/DL. Depending where you live that could be a huge burden. Which is why the day the governor signs the bill we need the injunction filled
Can we just call it what it is?
The Scarlet letter.
That would be Scarlet Letters, plural, sir.
I agree with a lawsuit. Until we start challenging these laws, they are going to continue to pass what they want.
I would like to see us pool our money together and higher representation for the court system. We are not winning in the court of public opinion. Let’s stop exhausting resources, and physical energy do that. Let’s use our energy, money, resources to legally fight where it matters most…IN THE COURTS. Those are the referees. That’s where you can cry “foul”. That’s where the law(s) can be examined. That’s who has the power to overturn our plight.
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Sounds like another trap to get arrested. So if it passes and you do not have time or the money to replace license or forget, guess what, you get arrested. Another trap to keep us from getting off the registry.
They see the 20/25 year mark for getting off is closing in for some and they just cannot stand that. Just can’t wait till they send us all to leper colonies.
This bill doesn’t require registrants to exchange an unexpired license. As written, it applies to licenses “originally issued or reissued by the department” (lines 809-810 in latest bill text as of this writing). The burden here appears to be on the DHSMV.
If anyone sees any language in the bill requiring registrant exchange of unexpired licenses, I’d be interested to know, but I haven’t seen any.
Originally issued…
Most likely that covers your current license.
Jacob great call out
Jacob, my uneducated guess, too. (The uneducated part only applies to me, Jacob, not to you.)
But I have now heard two attorneys say that there is definite confusion over this issue and knowing that there are rogue LE’s out there (although most are not), these two attorneys are recommending that if the bill passes, everyone should play it safe and have their licenses renewed with the red letting before January 1, 2024.
My question is: What if the registrant has advanced dementia along with other medical issues and cannot physically go to the DMV? How are they to renew their license/ID?
If everyone does have to have the red lettering put on right away, how is the DMV going to handle close to 30,000 people coming in to to get a new license?
You know, I left FAC for denying my free speech on comments I made in the past and I can still see you’re still doing it. So, I am now going to let others know that you moderate everything you don’t like.
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