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CALL TO ACTION FOR FLOOR VOTES ON HB 1085 AND SB 1252 – RED LETTERING ON DRIVER’S LICENSES

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At the time of the posting of this Call To Action, the dates for the floor votes have not been determined. 

 

The many calls, emails, and letters on these bills are having an effect as opposition to these bills is starting to come from some of our legislators.  Representative Maney was not nearly as confident in the third committee meeting as he was in the first one.  He even acknowledged that legislators have been sharing concerns with him about the red lettering.  SO, NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR US TO LET UP!!!

 

ALL 160 FLORIDA LEGISLATORS NEED TO HEAR FROM US BEFORE THE FINAL FLOOR VOTE CONCERNING THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL RED LETTERING ON THE DRIVER’S LICENSES PROPOSED IN THESE TWO BILLS.

 

You might also want to include a sentence or two about your opposition to HB 833, the reporting of 24-hour stays at vacation rentals.  Talking points for this bill are posted in the Call To Action for HB 833 at floridaactioncommittee.org.

 

PLEASE do the following:

  • Email all 160 members, or as many members as you can, in the Florida legislature. If you cannot email our legislators, or choose not to, please call as many as you can.
  • State that you OPPOSE the part of both bills that would require the red lettering on driver’s licenses for people on the registry.
  • Mention that you are a constituent if you happen to live in the legislator’s district.
  • Give some reasons as to why you oppose these bills. (Refer to suggestions made below.)
  • Ask family members and friends to also call to oppose the red lettering. (If these people live out of state: they can state that they are concerned that such unconstitutional laws could spread to their state; they travel to Florida and do not feel comfortable visiting a state that does not abide by the U.S. Constitution, etc.)
  • If our emails are treated as spam, then they will never be read. The FAC IT Committee recommends that we send only ONE EMAIL at a time to assure this does not happen.
  • Even if you are not able to email (or call) all 160 legislators, please email as many as you can. Every little bit helps.
  • Please work on the House of Representatives (HB 1085) first as their floor vote could be sooner than the vote in the Senate (SB 1252). There has to be 3 days between the last committee meeting and the floor vote, so the vote on SB 1252 would come at the middle of next week at the earliest.  The last committee meeting for HB 1085 was April 17.  Its floor vote could come as early as this Friday, April 21.  SO, PLEASE START EMAILING THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FIRST.  THEN WORK ON EMAILING THE SENATORS.

 

Comments made by Representative Patt Maney at the April 17 House Infrastructure Strategies Committee that need to be corrected:

  • When asked for an example of why it was necessary to change the markings that are already present on the driver’s licenses or identification cards for people on the sex offense registry, the only answer Maney could come up with was that “not everyone is as careful as you are”, i. e., law enforcement and landlords are not as careful. (Law enforcement uses the David check or FDIC which typically comes back in minutes with a greater history of who the person is.  Additionally, law enforcement is not saying that they are having a difficult time seeing the statute number or the words “SEXUAL PREDATOR.”)
  • Maney argued that marking the front of the driver’s license in red is the least intrusive way. (Two other representatives argued that the red lettering is NOT less intrusive than what is currently used on the licenses.  Courts have said the markings need to be the least restrictive means.)
  • Maney argued that the red lettering of the information on the driver’s license is totally unlike the Louisiana and Alabama cases. (The red lettering is not “totally unlike” the LA and AL cases.  The courts in both cases specifically said that the state must use the “least restrictive means’ in conveying its message because such a message – and code or announcement on the cards – constitutes compelled speech under the First Amendment, so strict scrutiny applies.  The whole point of HB 1085 and SB 1252 is to make the driver’s licenses for people on the registry very noticeable to the average person, which is exactly what the courts in LA and AL said is prohibited by the U.S. Constitution.  Representative Maney needs to read both entire cases.)
  • Maney stated that words are not on the Florida licenses – just letters. (This is incorrect.  Either the statute number is on the front of the license or the words SEXUAL PREDATOR.)
  • Maney stated that some law enforcement in smaller Florida communities may treat people differently than law enforcement officials do in cities. (The implication made was that law enforcement in our smaller communities are not as capable as law enforcement in the larger cities.  There was no documentation given to back up such a statement.)
  • Maney stated that the red lettering on the Florida licenses would be clearly less intrusive than what Alabama is using. (The point is not which is less intrusive but whether the state is using the least intrusive means.  This is the point that Representative Maney does not want to deal with.)
  • When asked whether people who had adjudication withheld can be placed on the registry, Maney thought they could not. (Maney is wrong.  The Florida Sex Offender Act specifically states that having adjudication withheld is irrelevant and that such persons must be required to register.)
  • When asked if Romeo and Juliet offenders can be placed on the registry, Maney said he did not know. (In the Romeo and Juliet cases, it is very difficult for individuals to be removed because there is controlling case law in Florida that says in order for a person to be removed, they cannot still be required to register under Federal SORNA, which most of them are because under Federal SORNA, if any force was used, that automatically makes the person a Tier III offender who must register for life or at least 25 years if they were under 18 at the time of the offense.  Many of the Romeo and Juliet registrants are unable to get off the registry.  Even for those who are eligible to be removed, many have no idea that they are eligible, or if they do know they are eligible, they do not have the money to hire an attorney to apply for the removal.  Money is difficult for many registrants to come by because of the Scarlett Red Letter hung around their neck that can make it impossible to find a decent-paying job.)

 Representative Maney does not have a clear understanding of the statutes and case law for people with a sex offense. Please consult with attorneys that do have such knowledge before voting on HB 1085 or SB 1252.

 

Additional talking points:

  • Florida currently has two court cases challenging the markings on the licenses and identification cards. One is in the Southern District with the other case being in the Northern District.  This is all public record.
  • Similar provisions in Louisiana and Alabama have been struck down as unconstitutional on First Amendment grounds. Both the Supreme Court of Louisiana, on the state level, and the Middle District of Alabama, on the federal level — two very conservative courts — have ruled that states must employ the least restrictive means when branding the driver’s licenses and identification cards for persons required to register as sex offenders.
  • Currently, a discrete numerical code appears in blue on the driver’s licenses of persons required to register in Florida. Sheriffs and police officers throughout the state are already aware of this code and its meaning, as are most schools. In fact, most schools in this state employ card scanning technology that immediately alert school officials to the card holder’s status. The red-letter provision of SB 1252 and HB 1085 are therefore as unnecessary as they are unconstitutional.
  • As several House Representatives recently acknowledged during committee deliberations, the red-letter provision of this bill is clearly unconstitutional, as it constitutes compelled speech that does not utilize the least restrictive means of expressing that the card holder is required to register. Supporting the red-letter provision of this bill is not being “tough on crime,” but rather is being tough on the First Amendment, whose guarantees protect all individuals, even the most unpopular members of society, from government compelled speech and shaming, which would be the practical effects of the red-letter provision of SB 1252 and HB 1085.
  • There are currently 52 registry requirements for people on the registry. Every Florida legislator should have received a copy of the timeline of these registry requirements that started off with 3 in 1997 and have grown to 52 by 2020.  Failure to fulfill any of these requirements could lead up to 5 years of imprisonment, even for the thousands of Florida registrants who are now law-abiding citizens. 
  • With a possible 53rd punitive registry requirement being passed into law, the tens of thousands of people on the Florida registry, along with family members and friends who are punished by these registry requirements, are beginning to unite to file a lawsuit if HB 1085 and SB 1252 are passed into law. Talks have begun with attorneys.
  • It is the responsibility of our elected Florida Legislators to ensure that all bills passed into law are constitutional. It should NOT have to be the responsibility of hard-working Florida citizens to ensure that new laws are constitutional by having to file costly lawsuits.  LEGISLATORS, PLEASE DO YOUR JOB!

 

Emails and Phone Numbers for Florida House of Representatives:

  1. Shane G. Abbott:  Shane.Abbott@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5005
  2. Thad Altman:  Thad.Altman@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5032
  3. Daniel Antonio “Danny” Alvarez:  Danny.Alvarez@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5069
  4. Carolina Amesty:  Carolina.Amesty@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5045
  5. Adam Anderson:  Adam.Anderson@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5057
  6. Robert Alexander “Alex “Andrade:  Alex.Andrade@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5002
  7. Bruce Hadley Antone:  Bruce.Antone@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5041
  8. Kristen Aston Arrington:  Kristen.Arrington@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5046
  9. Jessica Baker:  Jessica.Baker@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5017
  10. Douglas Michael “Doug” Bankson:  Doug.Bankson@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5039
  11. Webster Barnaby:  Webster.Barnaby@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5029
  12. Robin Bartleman:  Robin.Bartleman@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5103
  13. Fabián Basabe:  Fabian.Basabe@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5106
  14. Melony M. Bell:  Melony.Bell@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5049
  15. Mike Beltran:  Mike.Beltran@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5070
  16. Christopher Benjamin:  Christopher.Benjamin@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5107
  17. Kimberly Berfield:  Kim.Berfield@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5058
  18. Dean Black:  Dean.Black@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5015
  19. David Borrero:  David.Borrero@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5111
  20. Adam Botana:  Adam.Botana@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5080
  21. Robert A. “Robbie” Brackett:  Robert.Brackett@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5034
  22. LaVon Bracy Davis:  LaVon.BracyDavis@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5040
  23. Robert Charles “Chuck” Brannan III:  Chuck.Brannan@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5010
  24. James Buchanan:  James.Buchanan@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5074
  25. Demi Busatta Cabrera:  Demi.BusattaCabrera@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5114
  26. Daryl Campbell:  Daryl.Campbell@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5099
  27. Jennifer Canady:  Jennifer.Canady@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5050
  28. Michael A. “Mike” Caruso:  Mike.Caruso@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5087
  29. Joe Casello:  Joe.Casello@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5090
  30. Hillary Cassel:  Hillary.Cassel@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5101
  31. Kevin D. Chambliss:  Kevin.Chambliss@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5117
  32. Linda Chaney:  Linda.Chaney@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5061
  33. Charles Wesley “Chuck” Clemons Sr.:  Chuck.Clemons@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5022
  34. Lindsay Michelle Cross:  Lindsay.Cross@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5060
  35. Dan Daley:  Dan.Daley@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5096
  36. Kimberly Daniels:  Kimberly.Daniels@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5014
  37. Fentrice Driskell:  Fentrice.Driskell@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5067
  38. Wyman Duggan:  Wyman.Duggan@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5012
  39. Lisa Dunkley:  Lisa.Dunkley@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5097
  40. Jervonte “Tae” Edmonds:  Jervonte.Edmonds@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5088
  41. Anna V. Eskamani:  Anna.Eskamani@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5042
  42. Tiffany Esposito:  Tiffany.Esposito@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5077
  43. Tom Fabricio:  Tom.Fabricio@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5110
  44. Juan Alfonso Fernandez-Barquin:  JuanF.Barquin@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5118
  45. Randy Fine:  Randy.Fine@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5033
  46. Gallop Franklin II:  Gallop.Franklin@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5008
  47. Ashley Viola Gantt:  Ashley.Gantt@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5109
  48. Alina Garcia:  Alina.Garcia@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5115
  49. Sam Garrison:  Sam.Garrison@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5011
  50. Mike Giallombardo:  Mike.Giallombardo@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5079
  51. Karen Gonzalez Pittman:  Karen.Pittman@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5065
  52. Peggy Gossett-Seidman:  Peggy.GossettSeidman@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5091
  53. Michael “Mike” Gottlieb:  Michael.Gottlieb@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5102
  54. Michael Grant:  Michael.Grant@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5075
  55. Tommy Gregory:  Tommy.Gregory@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5072
  56. Philip Wayne “Griff” Griffitts Jr.:  Griff.Griffitts@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5006
  57. Jennifer “Rita” Harris:  Rita.Harris@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5044
  58. Dianne “Ms Dee” Hart:  Dianne.Hart@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5063
  59. Fred Hawkins:  Fred.Hawkins@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5035
  60. Yvonne Hayes Hinson:  Yvonne.Hinson@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5035
  61. Jeff Holcomb:  Jeff.Holcomb@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5053
  62. Christine Hunschofsky:  C.Hunschofsky@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5095
  63. Berny Jacques:  Berny.Jacques@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5059
  64. Dotie Joseph:  Dotie.Joseph@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5108
  65. Sam H. Killebrew:  Sam.Killebrew@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5048
  66. Traci Koster:  Traci.Koster@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5066
  67. Chip LaMarca:  Chip.LaMarca@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5100
  68. Thomas J. “Tom” Leek:  Tom.Leek@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5028
  69. Johanna López:  Johanna.Lopez@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5043
  70. Vicki L. Lopez:  Vicki.Lopez@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5113
  71. Randall Scott “Randy” Maggard:  Randy.Maggard@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5054
  72. Patt Maney:  Patt.Maney@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5004
  73. Ralph E. Massullo, MD:  Ralph.Massullo@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5023
  74. Stan McClain:  Stan.McClain@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5027
  75. Lawrence McClure:  Lawrence.McClure@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5068
  76. Fiona McFarland:  Fiona.McFarland@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5073
  77. Lauren Melo:  Lauren.Melo@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5082
  78. Kiyan Michael:  Kiyan.Michael@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5016
  79. James Vernon “Jim” Mooney Jr:  Jim.Mooney@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5120
  80. Angela “Angie” Nixon:  Angie.Nixon@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5013
  81. Tobin Rogers “Toby” Overdorf:  Toby.Overdorf@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5085
  82. Bobby Payne:  Bobby.Payne@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5020
  83. Daniel Perez:  Daniel.Perez@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5116
  84. Jenna Persons-Mulicka:  Jenna.Persons@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5078
  85. Rachel Lora Saunders Plakon:  Rachel.Plakon@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5036
  86. Susan Plasencia:  Susan.Plasencia@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5037
  87. Juan Carlos Porras:  JuanCarlos.Porras@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5119
  88. Michele K. Rayner-Goolsby:  Michele.Rayner@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5062
  89. Paul Renner:  Paul.Renner@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5019
  90. Alex Rizo:  Alex.Rizo@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5112
  91. Spencer Roach:  Spencer.Roach@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5076
  92. Felicia Simone Robinson:  Felicia.Robinson@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5104
  93. William Cloud “Will” Robinson Jr.:  Will.Robinson@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5071
  94. Bob Rommel:  Bob.Rommel@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5081
  95. Rick Roth:  Rick.Roth@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5094
  96. Dr. Joel Rudman:  Joel.Rudman@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5003
  97. Michelle Salzman:  Michelle.Salzman@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5001
  98. Jason Shoaf:  Jason.Shoaf@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5007
  99. David Silvers:  David.Silvers@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5089
  100. Tyler I. Sirois:  Tyler.Sirois@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5031
  101. Kelly Skidmore:  Kelly.Skidmore@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5092
  102. David Smith:  David.Smith@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5038
  103. John Snyder:  John.Snyder@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5086
  104. Paula A. Stark:  Paula.Stark@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5047
  105. Kevin M. Steele:  Kevin.Steele@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5055
  106. Cyndi Stevenson:  Cyndi.Stevenson@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5018
  107. Allison Tant:  Allison.Tant@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5009
  108. John Paul Temple: John.Temple@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5052
  109. Josie Tomkow:  Josie.Tomkow@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5051
  110. Dana Trabulsy:  Dana.Trabulsy@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5084
  111. Chase Tramont:  Chase.Tramont@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5030
  112. Keith L. Truenow:  Keith.Truenow@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5026
  113. Kaylee Tuck:  Kaylee.Tuck@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5083
  114. Susan L. Valdés:  Susan.Valdes@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5064
  115. Katherine Waldron:  Katherine.Waldron@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5093
  116. Patricia H. Williams:  Pat.Williams@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5098
  117. Marie Paule Woodson:  Marie.Woodson@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5105
  118. Taylor Michael Yarkosky:  Taylor.Yarkosky@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5025
  119. Bradford Troy “Brad” Yeager:  Brad.Yeager@myfloridahouse.gov  (850) 717-5056
  120. PENDING SPECIAL ELECTION

 

 

Emails and Phone Numbers for Florida Senators:

  1. Ben Albritton:  albritton.ben.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5027
  2. Bryan Avila:  avila.bryan.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5039
  3. Dennis Baxley:  baxley.dennis.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5013
  4. Lori Berman:  berman.lori.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5026
  5. Lauren Book:  book.lauren.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5035
  6. Jim Boyd:  boyd.jim.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5020
  7. Jennifer Bradley:  bradley.jennifer.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5006
  8. Jason Brodeur:  brodeur.jason.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5010
  9. Doug Broxson:  broxson.doug.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5001
  10. Danny Burgess:  burgess.danny.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5023
  11. Colleen Burton:  burton.colleen.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5012
  12. Alexis Calatayud:  calatayud.alexis.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5038
  13. Jay Collins:  collins.jay.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5014
  14. Tracie Davis:  davis.tracie.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5005
  15. Nick DiCeglie:  diceglie.nick.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5018
  16. Ileana Garcia:  garcia.ileana.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5036
  17. Erin Grall:  grall.erin.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5029
  18. Joe Gruters:  gruters.joe.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5022
  19. Gayle Harrell:  harrell.gayle.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5031
  20. Ed Hooper:  hooper.ed.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5021
  21. Travis Hutson:  hutson.travis.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5007
  22. Blaise Ingoglia:  ingoglia.blaise.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5011
  23. Shevrin Jones:  jones.shevrin.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5034
  24. Jonathan Martin:  martin.jonathan.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5033
  25. Debbie Mayfield:  mayfield.debbie.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5019
  26. Rosalind Osgood:  osgood.rosalind.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5032
  27. Kathleen Passidomo:  passidomo.kathleen.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5028
  28. Keith Perry:  perry.keith.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5009
  29. Jason Pizzo:  pizzo.jason.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5037
  30. Tina Scott Polsky:  polsky.tina.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5030
  31. Bobby Powell:  powell.bobby.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5024
  32. Ana Maria Rodriguez:  rodriguez.anamaria.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5040
  33. Darryl Rouson:  rouson.darryl.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5016
  34. Corey Simon:  simon.corey.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5003
  35. Linda Stewart:  stewart.linda.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5017
  36. Geraldine Thompson:  thompson.geraldine.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5015
  37. Victor Torres:  torres.victor.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5025
  38. Jay Trumbull:  trumbull.jay.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5002
  39. Tom Wright:  wright.tom.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5008
  40. Clay Yarborough:  yarborough.clay.web@flsenate.gov  (850) 487-5004

 

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24 thoughts on “CALL TO ACTION FOR FLOOR VOTES ON HB 1085 AND SB 1252 – RED LETTERING ON DRIVER’S LICENSES”

  • Eugene V Debs
    April 20, 2023 at 11:22 am
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    Thank you for the people in attendance that spoke up against this blatant scarlet letter poly. It’s funny how they so carefully avoid using the word punishment when voicing their views.
    It’s frustrating that he seemed more concern with the different theme parks vanity plates then our issue.

  • Tearfuleagle
    April 20, 2023 at 11:36 am
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    Great post. Glad to see that this is has not been set for a floor vote. Perhaps when calling and emailing we stress less about registrants and more about the First Amendment and compelled speech. This gives them grounds to remove that portion of the bill on First Amendment grounds and not to appear caving to registrants

    • Education
      April 20, 2023 at 5:51 pm
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      Yes, most of our legislators care nothing about facts/research, but they should care about costly lawsuits. Of course, lawsuits do not cost them anything. It is us, the taxpayers, who have to foot the bill.

      • jed
        April 24, 2023 at 9:41 am
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        Brevard commissioners said “insurance” would cover the cost of the lawsuit they lost and acted like it was no big deal

  • tearfuleagle
    April 20, 2023 at 11:50 am
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    Here are a few Cases to Referr them too:

    Wooley V Maynard
    WV Board of Education V Barnette
    Doe V Marshall
    State V Tazin Ardell Hill LA Supreme Court SCOTUS Denied Hearing
    Cory McClendan V Gary Long 11th Ciruit — Sign Case out of GA
    303 Creative LLC V Elenis out of Colorado Oral Arguments Heard by SCOTUS on December 5th.

    The first 5 all were wins by those fighting the compelled speech and the 6th is still being Decided by SCOTUS but looks to be another win against the Colorado Compelled Speech law,

    Lastly and I will admit Loosly Masterpiece Cakeshop V Colorado Civil Rights Commission.

  • Larry Robinson
    April 20, 2023 at 2:24 pm
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    What else can they do to us, except kill us.

    • Education
      April 20, 2023 at 5:52 pm
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      It is not over by a long shot.

    • Bwj
      April 21, 2023 at 11:08 am
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      Please don’t give them any ideas. They, the government, youtubers, and other assorted vigilantes are already threatening to do so.

    • Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com
      April 21, 2023 at 4:39 pm
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      Well they just did expand the death penalty to sex offenses AND allowing the death penalty with only 8 jurors. I expect Lauren Book to be first in line to flip the switch.

      I’m just waiting for Book to finally reopen the Hallibubrtonconcentration camps that have been on standby and just round up the registrants. FAC is afraid to say this outloud, but I have no problems saying it. Lauren Book is pure evil.

      • Saddles
        April 26, 2023 at 12:03 am
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        Wow Derek, That’s really not fair. What if someone called you pure evil instead of once fallen. I’m sure we all understand the situation but getting paranoid is not the way. Authorities have a job to do and yes power can go to one’s head even the person that got mixed up in this so called FTR. or forced to registrar.

        Nobody forces anyone or does a prostitute force one in bed when one goes to a cat house. Authorities know exactly what they are doing in these inducements to string one along. So is government the devil in disguise or the entice r or enforcer.

        Sure people can call anyone in a name calling ruckus but we can’t cry over spilled milk. Law enforcement know they are wrong or is that the way to skin a cat. A grain of salt goes a long way so either one uses it or loses it.

  • Pariah.001
    April 20, 2023 at 4:51 pm
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    After working all day to take care of my family. I have to chek in here with FAC eveyday to see what the state I live in will do next to make my life even harder. I paid all my taxes state and federal, been offence free for 33 years, yet still the punishment increases for me and my family. Its exhausting to be honest. I never in a million years though this would go this far. It makes me sad to think that I may have to sell my home and uproot my children to move to another state because the state I live in will not stop persecuting me. I just don’t know what else to do anymore. I guess the ability to provide for and protect my kids don’t count becuase someone needs a vote or two or want there name on a law they made.

  • Mp
    April 20, 2023 at 6:39 pm
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    I would like to thank FAC for all their incredible work and dedication to informing us and putting together these “call to action” posts. I have been blessed to see just a tiny bit of the tireless work that these volunteers do behind the scenes. It is remarkable to witness their dedication to sending out mailings and speaking with legislators and their aides and arranging press releases and educating legislators on their own bills. So much that most of us never see or know about.

    I would ask those that read these posts to please try and make your best effort to help out in these calls to action. It is the best way to thank those who are doing so, so much for us. And also to support those legislators who do support doing the right thing and have been brave enough to speak out. I actually had one legislator’s office call me back early on in this effort to inform me of where the bill was going next and asked me to call those up coming committee members and voice my opposition. Of course I did and was planning too. So if a legislator is asking for help to help us, then let’s do this! Do what you can and know as the calls and emails grow in number there will be change.
    (ps -always be polite)

  • Pariah.001
    April 21, 2023 at 7:05 pm
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    I believe my wife contacted evey person in these contact list today in opposition to this unconstitutional bill. I’m hopeful it helps.

  • FEDUP
    April 22, 2023 at 4:00 pm
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    HOW WERE THEY ABLE TO EVEN BRAND CITIZENS IDS IN THE FIRST PLACE

    ARE WE FIGHTING FOR THE DESIGNATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE IDS

    • Jacob
      April 22, 2023 at 4:44 pm
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      They were able to brand citizens’ ID’s the same way they are doing now— by passing legislation. Then a Federal District court in Alabama cited this branding scheme as an example of the least restrictive means of achieving the state’s interest.

      We are not fighting for the current designations. We just oppose this bill which makes them worse.

    • tearfuleagle
      April 23, 2023 at 10:57 am
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      Great Article and we all should be reaching out to Senator Lori Berman to thank her and give her other case law that show, if passed, this law would unconstitutional and ripe for lawsuits. Also possible personal injury lawsuits as this would allow for harsh treatment, discrimination, and possible vigilantism against those on the registry. We also need to thank the other senator for wanting to keep the public safe, which I think we all agree on. However perhaps numbers an percentages of offenses should be provider to her as she lumps them all together pretty much.

    • tearfuleagle
      April 23, 2023 at 10:59 am
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      Also FAC, do we know how much a temporary injunction costs? I was thinking, just as we do with other activities, we could have a fund set aside just for that purpose. Keep in mind an injunction in RI kept their residency restriction bill at bay for over 8 years and the registrant ended up winning.

      • Kyle M.
        April 24, 2023 at 5:33 am
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        I currently have a State case against the FDLE Commissioner challenging the constitutionality of FSORNA as it applies to myself. A hearing will be held on May 16 to decide his motion to dismiss my complaint. If the red-letter bill is signed into law while my case is still pending, I was considering filing a motion for temporary emergency injunction. But since I am pro se, I want to make sure it is done correctly. If their is an attorney out there who is willing to draft the motion to facially challenge the new law, I would be willing to file it my case so as to save the expense and hassle of having to initiate a new case.

  • ULTRAMAGASEXOFFENDR
    April 23, 2023 at 9:29 am
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    I Don’t take my Driver’s Lic with me anymore Im old enough to Buy Gold jack so i don’t need a Lic.

    And if i do get pulled over i make the offer look me up by my birthday.

    Yeah now thats what i will do if you make me get the Red letters

    And make TOM HANKS gets his too

    [Note: The Moderator reminds all Members always to present government-issued ID whenever it is required by law].

  • Shari Gonzalez
    April 23, 2023 at 10:48 am
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    It almost seems like these type of laws are disabling people that have served their sentences. When a person is in prison, they are assessed, offered treatment, and have a release date. When that ends, aren’t they then under Parole rules and allowed to live the rest of their lives ? If the answer is ” yes “, then EVERY state should respect the sentence given and follow it ! These type of added restrictions truly are grounds for people to apply for disability because they are being tracked like a lost pet. Even a pet has someone that cares for them – maybe someone should care for these people ! ? If I were under such guidelines, why would I even drive ? I would be asking for assistance to get to work ( if I could even get a decent job ) or I’d apply for disability. I think ALL states should look at how people are being treated in other countries with low sex offences, and try another way. In the USA this feels Unconstitutional and undermines the rights for a person to serve a ” sentence ” – which is supposed to have an ending !

  • Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com
    April 25, 2023 at 2:39 pm
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    There are many times you still need an ID card. Entering certain establishments, cashing or writing a check, and buying certain things (not just alcohol) require the showing of ID.

    In addition, there are some states that have “stop and identify” statutes, some of which include a requirement to present ID. In AL and TN specifically, there are requirements that the Person Forced to Register carry their state ID at all times.

    856.021 Loitering or prowling; penalty.—
    (1) It is unlawful for any person to loiter or prowl in a place, at a time or in a manner not usual for law-abiding individuals, under circumstances that warrant a justifiable and reasonable alarm or immediate concern for the safety of persons or property in the vicinity.
    (2) Among the circumstances which may be considered in determining whether such alarm or immediate concern is warranted is the fact that the person takes flight upon appearance of a law enforcement officer, refuses to identify himself or herself, or manifestly endeavors to conceal himself or herself or any object. Unless flight by the person or other circumstance makes it impracticable, a law enforcement officer shall, prior to any arrest for an offense under this section, afford the person an opportunity to dispel any alarm or immediate concern which would otherwise be warranted by requesting the person to identify himself or herself and explain his or her presence and conduct. No person shall be convicted of an offense under this section if the law enforcement officer did not comply with this procedure or if it appears at trial that the explanation given by the person is true and, if believed by the officer at the time, would have dispelled the alarm or immediate concern.

    I would not advise people to not identify themselves to LE. Considering how loose LE is with interpreting such statutes, refusing to show ID could possibly be construed as concealing your identity.

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