AMENDED CALL TO ACTION #3 FOR SB 1230 and HB 1235
SB 1230 referred to Senate Fiscal Policy Committee and HB 1235 added to Second Reading Calendar
We have met with some success because of the emails, calls, and in-person visits with legislators. Both bills (SB 1230 and HB 1235) have removed the language that could have made it impossible for anyone to ever petition to be removed from the registry. Our teamwork is showing some positive results, and now is not the time to quit as we have more work to do.
What you need to know about SB 1230 and HB 1235:
- At the time of posting/emailing this Call to Action, no dates or times for future votes have been published, but we assume that they will be coming.
- SB 1230 and HB 1235 are an attempt by FDLE and our legislators to amend the Sexual Predators Act (FS 775.21) and the Sexual Offenders Act (943.0435).
- The sponsor of SB 1230 is Senator Jennifer Bradley, representing District 6 (Columbia, Baker, Union, Bradford, Clay, Gilchrist, and Northern Alachua Counties). The sponsor of HB 1235 is Representative Jessica Baker, representing District 17 (part of Duval County).
- The verbiage “a day includes any part of a calendar day” is back in these bills. “For the purpose of calculating a temporary residence under this paragraph, the first day that a person abides, lodges, or resides at a place is excluded and each subsequent day is counted. A DAY INCLUDES ANY PART OF A CALENDAR DAY.”
- ANY duration of travel outside the USA is reportable (previously 5 days or more). The line “5 days” has been struck out.
- Lines 1034-1036 and 1600-1602 in SB 1230 and lines 1034-1036 and 1601-1602 in HB 1235 state that EACH instance of a failure to register or report changes of the required information constitutes a SEPARATE offense. A single misstep carries a maximum sentence of 5 years. Someone on the registry could be facing decades in prison for one unintentional, paperwork violation, as it would be unreported each time you register.
- These entire bills are retroactive in the sense that they will apply to all people on the registry regardless of when they were convicted. However, they are not retroactive in the sense that someone who did NOT register 4 cars a month before the law passed (if it passes) could be charged with 4 separate offenses. That part would only apply to registration violations committed after the bills’ effective date.
Please do the following:
- Email or call members of the Senate Fiscal Policy Committee first. Then contact as many of the 120 House Representatives as you can. Paul Renner is the Speaker of the House.
- You will need to give your name.
- If you are a constituent for any of the senators you are contacting, make sure you mention that you are. You can click on these links to find your senator and representative.
- Let the legislators know the reasons you OPPOSE a particular part of these bills. Tell them what could happen to you and your family if these bills are not amended. TELL YOUR STORY.
- If you call in the evening or on a weekend, voicemail will pick up. Leave a message. Aides say that voicemails are counted.
- Always be cordial in your communications with the legislators as they are more likely to listen to us.
Talking points:
The legislators are asking that we let them know how SB 1230 and HB 1235 will impact our lives. TELL YOUR STORIES. If you do not have a story to tell, then give a hypothetical story that could happen to you if the above-mentioned concerns we have with these bills are NOT removed. More than one story would be great to share.
We also need for family members, friends, or anyone who would be negatively impacted by the changes being proposed in these bills to tell our legislators what will happen to them if the language is not removed from SB 1230 and HB 1235.
Do not try to use every suggestion or piece of information given in this Call to Action. Pick out what is most important to you. If you have time to write more than one email or make more than one call, then you could include additional information.
PERTAINING TO THE DEFINITION OF A DAY:
- Representative Baker (the sponsor of HB 1235) recently gave the following example of how the definition “part of a day” is intended to be used in HB 1235:
1st day at temporary residence counts as Day 0. Does not count.
2nd day at temporary residence counts as Day 1.
3rd day at temporary residence counts as Day 2.
4th day at temporary residence counts as Day 3. Triggers obligation to register.
Representative Baker continued with her interpretation of HB 1235: Let’s say that you check out on the 4th day (also referred to as Day 3) at 8 am and return home. Because you have stayed “any part” of Day 3, you have now triggered the obligation to register. Had you left before midnight on the 3rd day (also referred to as Day 2), you would NOT have triggered the obligation to register.
Representative Baler said that the “day includes any part of a calendar day” would only apply to Day 3, but these bills do NOT say that. Some in law enforcement are saying there will be chaos in their departments if this passes.
- Nowhere in these bills does it state that Days 1 and 2 cannot be considered as “parts of a calendar day.”
- Baker told the FAC members who met with her that the intent of this bill was NOT to keep people from visiting places or going to a barber shop, but the bill does not say that. It says that a day includes “any part of a calendar day,” with a possible implication being that any PARTS of Days 1 and 2 would be considered a day in these bills.
- One possible scenario: You are in your sister’s wedding which involves being at a temporary residence for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights. Since Friday is the first day, it would not count, but you would technically have to leave by 12:00 am (midnight) on Sunday as any part of Monday would count as a “day.” What if your flight is canceled? Use other scenarios that you can think of that would apply to your life if this part of these bills is not amended. TELL YOUR STORY.
- What do you do if it is a 3-day holiday weekend and your registration office is not open? And your car breaks down late Friday afternoon, causing you to have to rent a car? This is one reason we need for these bills to use the words “business day” rather than “day.” TELL YOUR STORY. If you do not have one, then describe hypothetically how such a situation could be disastrous for you. Include family members’ stories.
- If Florida legislators want people on the registry to remain compliant, then change the word “day” to “business day.” In lines 571-575 of SB 1230 and HB 1235, “If the sexual predator is in the custody of a local jail, the custodian of the local jail shall register the sexual predator within 3 BUSINESS DAYS after intake of the sexual predator…” If the custodian of a jail is given 3 business days, then why aren’t people on the registry, who are trying to remain compliant, also given 3 business days? TELL YOUR STORY OF WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU OR A FAMILY MEMBER WHO COULD NOT RE-REGISTER OR REGISTER A CHANGE BECAUSE THE OFFICE WAS CLOSED.
PERTAINING TO HAVING EACH INCIDENCE OF FAILURE TO REGISTER OR REPORT CHANGES COUNTING AS A SEPARATE OFFENSE:
- These are paperwork felonies with each offense coming with a maximum of 5 years in prison.
- One possible scenario: Your wife receives a new license plate with her renewed car registration and forgets to tell you. You re-register 3 times, not knowing that her car has a new license plate. Law enforcement comes to your home and sees the license plate that you have not registered at any of your 3 previous re-registrations. You have now committed 3 paperwork felonies that could land you in prison for 15 years. TELL YOUR OWN STORY ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO YOU OR COULD HAPPEN TO YOU IN THE FUTURE IF THIS LANGUAGE STAYS IN THESE BILLS.
- Other benign violations that could land someone on the registry in prison for years if there is more than one occurrence:
- Failure to maintain a driver’s license or identification card
- Failure to provide an email address or an internet identifier
- Failure to provide a phone number
- If the wording “each incident is counted as a separate offense” remains in these bills, some people on the registry who are not sexually re-offending could end up with longer prison sentences than that for some violent offenders. How is sending people on the registry to prison for years for these paperwork felonies making society safer?
- If this language in SB 1230 and HB 1235 is not deleted, it is conceivable that someone could end up with a lifetime sentence for failure-to-register violations. The Georgia State Supreme Court ruled that a lifetime sentence for failure to register is unconstitutional. Decisions of state supreme courts, especially those of adjacent or nearby states, are persuasive authority, especially for matters of first impression, in another state.
- FDLE has expressed significant concerns in previous years with vacation rental bills: “…sexual offender and predator registration is a civil and regulatory process, not punishment…If the impact on sexual predator and offender registration is viewed as punishment…, the FDLE advises that these concerns may lead to significant litigation…Such litigation may jeopardize constitutionality, and therefore the viability, of Florida sexual offender and predator registration laws.” (Florida Department of Law Enforcement, 2022 Agency Legislative Bill Analysis for SB 512, at 3 (Nov. 15, 2021))
- The “every mistake is a separate offense” shows that even the intent of the law is to be punitive.
- FDLE is asking for the proposed changes in current statutes (943.0435 and 775.21). They are focusing only on the small minority of people on the registry who have sexually re-offended after release from prison for a previous sex crime. Focus on this minority of sexual re-offenders only, but why continue to punish the tens of thousands of people on the Florida registry who are NOT sexually re-offending and never will?
- There are already lawsuits in Florida against the registry, and more are coming if the Florida Legislature is not reined in concerning passing even more punitive laws that affect the thousands upon thousands of law-abiding citizens on the Florida registry.
- It is time for Florida to begin using empirically-validated risk assessments (not the offense) to remove the thousands of people on the Florida registry who are now law-abiding citizens. Then law enforcement could focus all resources on the small minority that continue to sexually re-offend. Then and only then will society become safer. (Florida is one of only three states in the United States where placement on the registry is for life.)
Contact information for members of the Senate Fiscal Policy Committee for SB 1230:
- Senator Travis Hutson (R) Chair: Hutson.travis.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5007
- Senator Linda Stewart (D) Vice Chair: stewart.linda.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5017
- Senator Ben Albritton (R): Albritton.ben.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5027
- Senator Lori Berman (D): berman.lori.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5026
- Senator Jim Boyd (R): boyd.jim.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5020
- Senator Colleen Burton (R): burton.colleen.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5012
- Senator Alexis Calatayud (R): calatayud.alexis.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5038
- Senator Jay Collins (R): collins.jay.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5014
- Senator Nick DiCeglie (R): diceglie.nick.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5018
- Senator Ileana Garcia (R): Garcia.ileana.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5036
- Senator Shervin D. Jones (D): jones.shevrin.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5034
- Senator Debbie Mayfield (R): Mayfield.debbie.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5019
- Senator Rosalind Osgood (D): Osgood.rosalind.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5032
- Senator Ana Maria Rodriguez (R): rodriguez.anamaria.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5040
- Senator Corey Simon (R): simon.corey.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5003
- Senator Geraldine F. Thompson (D): Thompson.geraldine.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5015
- Senator Victor M. Torres, Jr. (D): torres.victor.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5025
- Senator Jay Trumbull (R): Trumbull.jay.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5002
- Senator Tom A. Wright (R): wright.tom.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5008
- Senator Clay Yarborough (R): yarborough.clay.web@flsenate.gov; (850) 487-5004
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Does the temporary residence include places i visit such as a friends house..i visit on jan 1 ( excluded) i again visit on easter( day1)..visit again on july 4th (day 2)..visit on thanksgiving( day 3).. does a christmas visit trigger reporting as a temporary residence??..if so, this severely limits social activities with friends and family.. can i only visit people 3 days in a year..which friend would allow me to put their address on the internet?? Why subject them to possible harm..?
No, under the wording of the bills, “permanent, temporary, and transient residences” only refer to places a person visits for the purpose of “abiding, lodging, or residing.” This is a significant improvement from previous years’ incarnations of the “any part of a day is a day” bills, which could have potentially allowed just about any place to be considered a “transient residence.” I believe (just my personal opinion) that this improvement was made due to FAC’s strong efforts at stopping the “any part of a day is a day” bills during the past years in which it was found in bills that never became law.
I disagree. They are viewing this bill as just going to a place ie abiding or residing those two words just mean having a presence at. Which is I why in my emails I asked for the clarification on Banks, Gas Stations, Grocery Stores, Friends house for a cookout, Sporting events Etc.
That is not how any of the FDLE or legislative analysts have assessed the meaning of the wording in these bills. If you read the multiple staff analyses of these bills (which are all available on the Legislature’s website), as well as the FDLE analysis, you will see that they have pointed out that the definitions of “permanent,” “temporary,” and “transient” residences are not being changed. All that is changing is how the third day is calculated, and a provision that the first day does not count. I don’t know who the “they” is that you are referring to, but not a single member of the Legislature, nor any of the attorneys on their staff who have analyzed the bills, has publicly stated that your interpretation is either the intent or the effect of the bill.
Well I am only going by the words “abide” which can mean live or stay. If it is only meaning what you say then other than the whole registry being one big legislative blank check then not much changes. Idk I am trying to move out anyway got two left in the house then it’s adios for me
Does the reporting get triggered if i spend the night on the aforementioned dates? The concern is ” in the aggregate in a calender year”
In my opinion (note that I am not a lawyer, this is just my opinion), if you spend 4 nights at the same location in a calendar year, which would involve part of the late p.m. and the next early a.m. at the same place (address), then yes, that is at least 3 days in the aggregate during a calendar year and would make the place a “temporary residence” under the law, both the way it is written now as well as the way it would be amended under these bills. My layperson, non-lawyer opinion is that spending 4 nights at the same address would make that location a “temporary residence” which must be registered. This is not legal advice, just the way I understand the current law and the proposed changes in these bills.
That is my understanding. That means banks gas stations fast food sporting events church and possibly even you place registration
Can’t wait to post the Sheriff’s Office as a registered address. I’ll make stops at the legislators’ office too and log in on multiple days to register those addresses.
Any updates on the doe v. SWEARINGEN with plaintiffs with prior to 97 convictions ??
That case is awaiting the outcome of the Harper v. Glass case in the Northern District of Florida. Once a ruling is issued in Harper, then counsel for the parties in Doe v Swearingen are to notify and brief the court regarding the impact that the Harper ruling will have on the case.
I’m hope they rule on this before the returned of Jesus. And rule a favorable decision. I remeber recently hie Alabama made people wait for years and ruled against us.
Thanks. That’s surprising since the argument for violation doctrine for the plaintiffs with cases prior to 97 are completely different in my view.
Where can i find harper v. Glass case?
See FAC article: https://floridaactioncommittee.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Jane-Doe-v-Swearingen-Motion-for-Reconsideration.pdf
You can search the case number at https://pacer.uscourts.gov (after opening an account with a credit card). Or, at https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/ for free, if someone has caused it to be posted there after viewing the case on pacer (you can find the main case doc on courtlistener/RECAP searching for “4:21-cv-85-RH-MJF”).
Just go to https://www.courtlistener.com/?q=4%3A21-cv-00085-RH-MJF&type=r&order_by=score+desc&page=2 and find the case in the search results. You can subscribe to PACER if you want to see more.
Guess the lawmakers aren’t boaters. Since I have a liveaboard boat plus a home residence, I’ll register the GPS coordinates when I’m staying on the water and keep my home address registered as my permanent residence.
The more difficult they make it or impossible not to violate, it makes it for favorable to be argued in court.
please, when you write to these politicians – let them know that stranger danger cases are very rare and that most folks on that list have family members that depend on them, like small kids of their own or elderly family members. That’s important.
Ok I got a question maybe others want to ask as well. I got to re-register in March, do I need to put every single address on the registry that I visit. Like doctors offices,hospital,gas stations,restaurants, sheriff’s office and pretty much everywhere else. I don’t goto a gym as I was told I have to register that address,would cause more issues than necessary. This stuff has a ton of reading and extremely confusing. Thank you and have a great day.if I get any replies I will try to respond as I have never got any notifications for replies.
Who told you that you must register a gym you attend? Your registration office?
Yes polk county sheriff’s office told me that and church if I went to one. Just like they still ask about if I’m single or married
Have they been doing this for awhile or are they trying to associate this with some new law?
Is Polk County asking you to register your gym and church as a residence?
Do they say what they are doing with this information?
Is anyone else in Polk being told to register church, gym?
Anyone have the answer to Education’s questions?
They have said it for a long time, even before this law came up. They said if it’s an address I would have to register. They never said exact reason as to why. I didn’t goto church or a gym so I would pass that question when I was asked.
I have already had three different doctors stop seeing me for no reason. I guess someone is putting sex offender in my chart.
The first time I saw a wonderful doctor, the next time I saw him, he would not even look me in the eye and walked out of the room without saying a word to me. Then the nurse came in and said I was all done and to pay at the front desk.
I refused to pay stating I was not asked any question nor were my medications refilled. I am on doctor #4 in an eight month’s span. I filled a complaint with the ADA.
Wait until we have to register doctors we see.
Here’s a suggestion: every law enforcement office in Florida is subject to investigation by FDLE’s Standards and Training Commission. This means Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd and his deputies can be investigated for their methods when questioning PFRs about information such as marital status that FDLE and the law do not require.
Robert:
I don’t believe Florida law or Polk County law requires this. Anyone here can tell you that Grady Judd is one of the biggest harassers of people on the registry. His misconduct must not go unchallenged.
This call to action. Well actions do speak louder than words. Sure one would rather not tell another where they stay at night or where they go, whether to a gym or any other place as that is compounding things a bit more.
Read Romans 14:13 and that will explain many of this registry ruses. Actions can be good or bad and with this registry it is bad so stand up and speak out. Much of all this registry is Blind Justice
I know that none of us are Lawyers, but i am wondering what if anything I need to do, I moved out of Fl 41/2 yrs ago. I have to come back next month for a memorial service. My plan is 1 night in Northern, Fl, then 2 nights in central Fl, each night will be at a separate address. reading the laws, my interpretation is I do not need to register as I will NOT be at 1 address for 48 hours, then leaving the state.. thoughts ??
If you will notice all these amendments reek with a “because we can” clause. Talk about the concept of limited power in government.
Seems like authority wants to be a dictator government in this protective abuse punishment plague many in these unjust ways.
So had this passed or not? I seen where it says recently it was laid on the table. What does that mean?
Yes, it did pass but due to the efforts of FAC, the bill was amended to remove the language that would have prevented the ability of some persons required to register due to a Florida conviction from petitioning for removal after 25 years from the end of release. Also due to the multiyear efforts of FAC, the wording regarding “any part of a day is a day” was clarified to only apply to a place a person visits for the purpose of “abiding, lodging, or residing,” not merely being present at, as in previous years’ versions of this bill.
So from you are saying they the creators of this bill are saying that we DO NOT have to report our grocery stores, banks, churches, Gyms, parents house of a visit, Friends house for a visit, sports arena’s Etc. And for counting purposes.
Arrive on Friday at 11 am and leave Sunday at 11:59 then no registration but if I stay til 12:00 then i Would?
No legislator or bill analyst, including the FDLE analyst, has stated that places a person required to register visits for a purpose other than “abiding, lodging, or residing” must be registered. It was pointed out in one of the legislative staff analyses that the definitions of “permanent, temporary, or transient” residences are not being modified (you can review those on the Legislature’s website). In effect, what is being modified is how the first and third days will now be calculated for permanent, temporary, and transient residences.
Regarding a place that you do visit for the purpose of residing, my understanding of the bill is that if you arrive on Friday at 11:00 a.m. and stay until that Sunday at 11:59 p.m., provided you have not stayed there (or for the purpose of a transient residence, in that county) any other day during the calendar year, the location would not qualify as a permanent, temporary, or transient residence, since the first day (Friday) would not count, but any part of Saturday and Sunday you stay there would. Thus, under that scenario and the new definition of a day, you would have only stayed there two days. If you stay any part of Monday early morning, that would count as the third day and require registration. That is my layperson, non-lawyer opinion. I am not qualified to give you legal advice, only my own personal interpretation of the bill. I suspect that once this becomes law and goes into effect, the rules about when short visits must be registered will become clearer.
I belive these were signed into law today, sadly. Do we have any hope or plans of challenging any of this?
On Lauren’s question re challenging HB1235, I assume we need to wait and see how Does v Glass (aka EPF I) turns out. Then we will need an attorney to identify what provisions of the U.S. Constitution, if any, are violated by HB1235.
To be perfectly candid, I’m currently so confused by what legislation has passed (this year and last year), what legislation hasn’t passed, and what changed with Harper v. Glass that I’m in desperate need of a “what’s allowed” refresher. It’s so involved and confusing that I just stay home…which I guess is their intent.
So, I check out of a hotel on my 3rd day there. I guess I still have to now register that temp address even though I’m no longer there? Or maybe, I still plan to stay one more day, so I register the address and check out the next day. Do I then need to go back and un-register that temp address? It’s punitively comical.
You’ve just illustrated one reason why I will never set foot in Florida. Its laws are so tangled that it is highly unlikely that a PFR won’t violate some obscure state, county or city regulation. And it seems enforcement is up to the whims of county sheriffs. Some states like mine even prohibit counties and cities from adding additional requirements. This makes compliance at least possible.
Nobody’s mentioned the predator clause listed in the bill. The one that makes everyone a predator, until a petition by the courts say otherwise. This is there way of circumnavigation, around the whole license issue, removal from registration, and a whole bunch of other issues, by classifying the majority as one group.
Unless I am wrong the predator tag has to be pronounced by a Judge at sentencing. Or at least that is how it was before and I do not think this bill makes it retroactive.
Your category is based on the statutes that you were convicted of. The qualifications are outlined in the sexual predator statute 775.21
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Not correct. When I was sentenced, there was no registry so was no sentenced to any registry, offender nor predator. When I got released from prison, the state put me on the newly formed registry as an offender.
A judge cannot sentence you on the registry because supposedly the registry is not punishment so you cannot be sentenced to it. However the judge does tell you now that there is one that you will have to register. If he or she says “As part of your sentence, you must register” wouldn’t that automatically make it punishment, since it is part of your sentence?
MY God why can’t the judges see it for what it is, punishment. The judges should repeat Willy Wonka and say “You Lose! Good Day Sir!”
I am very confused, Ron just one with the Florida Supreme court stating there must be a path off and at 20 years with no arrests you can petition to do just that. Can a Governor override the supreme court?????
Seems the law makers are throwing rocks and being bullies. I totally agree we must protect people from harm, but it goes so far that it affects our families who have done nothing wrong. Additionally, most of us have done our time with no other incidents, yet they claim all this is NOT punishment?
God bless those who get off the registry and a double dose to those who cannot get removed. I have heard stories in the past of even victims coming forward stating they wanted justice but many of them also agree the registry goes too far.
I guess on the other end of that spectrum are victims or even people who had nothing to do with our cases, wanting us all to be executed by firing squad.
Odd that a mass murderer can be released [citation needed] when their sentence is over and pretty much go on with their lives, other than having a felony. They can find a job somewhere eventually, for the most part live wherever they want, enjoy a day at the park and other activities as long as they do not reoffend.
We on the other hand, had many of us retro-actively placed on a lifetime registry scheme that cause not only us harm, but also our families. Every time I make a friend, they find out about my past and then of course they disappear and cut me off and block my phone #.
But hey, nothing to see here, it’s normal right???
[The moderator was unable to identify a case in the U.S. in which a convicted mass murderer was released into the community]