New Florida Internet Identifier Law Approved by Governor
Florida House Bill 699, which “[r]evises definition of term “Internet identifier”; defines “social Internet communication”; requires sexual predators & sexual offenders to register each Internet identifier’s corresponding website homepage or application software name with FDLE through sheriff’s office; requires sexual predators & sexual offenders to report any change to certain information after initial in-person registration in specified manner.” was approved by Governor Scott yesterday.
In essence; the new law requires registrants to register the “identifier” and where the identifier is used (ie: homepage of website or software application name”). The full text of the new law can be found here: http://static-lobbytools.s3.amazonaws.com/bills/2017/pdf/0699ER.pdf
The law requires that one registers, “each Internet identifier’s corresponding website homepage or application software name, with the department through the department’s online system or in person at the sheriff’s office within 48 hours after using such electronic mail addresses and Internet identifiers”
Currently, the FDLE’s Cyber Communication System does not allow you to register the “corresponding website homepage or application software name“. Unless the system is updated, we suggest registering them at the Sheriff’s office or calling the FDLE at 1-888-357-7332 for guidance on what to do in order to committing a crime by not registering the “corresponding website homepage or application software name“.
Note that this new law does not stop the lawsuit, which is still pending and will continue. Our position is that the State cannot replace one unconstitutional law with another.
So would this new amendment to the current law take affect September or October 1st??
It takes effect NOW
I don’t understand what we are supposed to do now then…?? Register every website we go to or what?
Edit: I just got off the phone with FDLE, and they said that the law goes into effect on Thursday, and that the website would be updated by then to allow remote changing of the identifier specifics.
Ref: new internet identifier law, if your playing games on the internet, do you have to make ref: to the games web site? there is no URL. What about on line banking, paying all utilities on line .etc; ?
Hopefully, the state will update the FDLE registry information so individuals (https://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/Important.jsp) will know…. seems pretty-darn impossible to keep up with all the number of overly zealous laws. with FLORIDA!
so , when does the FDLE plan on notifying RSO’s ?? after they violate this new law ??
Probably. This would be their typical “make s**t up and don’t tell anyone until it is too late” approach. Then they can pad their stats again and tell everyone how great it’s working so they can make it worse.
What happed to the motion Held on April 10th. This should have already been shut down by the Federal Judge.
That concerned the 2014 and 2016 version of the law that was amended by this 2017 definition.
So we have noting in place at the moment to protect our first amendment rights?????
So what now? This state is a joke. I wish I never came to this state. Every politician in Tallahassee should look at themselves and worry about what will happen to them when they face God. I have been off probation since April 2005 before any of these laws took effect. I plea bargained back in 1996. i was told back then I only had to register for 10 years which was the length of my probation. I’ve paid my debt to society. I hope the judge comes through ASAP…. Because I am tired of bullshit laws being passed for no reason. The only people to be worried about are not RSO’s but politicians themselves. GOD help us all.
I hope the ACLU or someone files an emergency motion to stop this; especially after the recent SCOTUS Ruling. Anonymous Free Speach I thought was a constitutional right!
so we would have to disclose the name(s) that are used here and this website.
i have 100’s as i have 2 different business, vendor sites, etc… what fing BULLSHIT!!!
I thought we had lawyers fighting this.
We do.
This is a newly passed law.
So what happened to the motion for summery judgement and the motion to make the injunction permanent that was submitted on June 22nd?
You realize there are going to be a butt full of us who will be arrested for this new asinine law.
I wanna cry – this is absolute insanity!
And exactly what freaking purpose does this serve??
if i join or create or chang name on some website on a Fridays afternoon or (sat. and monday is a holiday) how do i report it to sheriff office within 48 hours and not break the law?
Hopefully you will not have to do it for long but there will be electronic (online) means for you to update.
You must do both! Do not neglect your County registration. Give it to your PO AND SPOT. The rules/timelines are also slightly different for both, and neither exempts you from reporting to the other. They are BOTH required.
Every registrant should read these Florida statutes, in full, ideally once per year:
943.0435 Sexual offenders required to register with the department; penalty.—
(If Pred) 775.21 The Florida Sexual Predators Act.—
(If on supervision) Your entire set of orders, which do come from a standard list but are ultimately unique to the individual and can be changed over time.
The information provided by Bryan is not correct – it only applies to people on probation.
The governor of Florida is a sick man. He is not fit to run a garbage dump…wait…guess I was wrong since he is already doing that.
Pity as Florida is such a beautiful state were it not for the government there. Hopefully the good people of that state will vote the entire corrupt bunch out and join the rest of the civilized world.
Well said! Florida needs to get their act together. It’s such a waste of a great state to live in, all due to laws like this.
The bigger problem is Pam Bondi….
i just read the pdf what I’m confused about say if one owns a business and the business makes comments on websites, etc under the business name… it does not address that situation at all.
also if a person is in a trade group, or some other type of group where they discuss trade secrets, etc… or banking info, etc… they want that info? humm perhaps a social site of rick scott sucks, florida sucks, etc…. might be in order
but all i know is that this really stinks, guess they want to fill up them private prisons they have vested interests in.
So is anyone less confused by this law than the previous ones?
All – the attorneys are on top of this like white on rice. Naturally, next steps can’t be discussed openly here, where anyone can read it, but they are being taken. Keep checking back here for updates.
awesome! thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So will the local sheriff’s departments be as clueless about this law as they were about the last one before it was enjoined? The SPOT deputies here in Pinellas seem to be pretty competent and about as reasonable as one can be for someone in their position, but they seemed to be as befuddled as we were last time around.
So will this law be added the injection if for no other reason than the State left no time for the court even give it a cursory reading in order to determine whether or not it is substantially different from the last one and whether the difference, well, make any difference in light of the recent SCOTUS decision. ?
So does this law only apply to social web sites or every site you visit? If the latter, kiss my job goodbye.
There’s always talk about violation of the 1st amendment with this type of law. I never hear anything about 5th amendment issues. If I commit a crime via Internet communication, and the State uses my Internet identifier (which they compelled me to provide) as evidence against me, did they not force me to incriminate myself?
I guess if they didn’t use the Identifier in court proceedings, they might be allowed to get away with it (just like they can use fingerprints that were compelled at an earlier date to make an arrest), but when it’s court evidence, I think it should be different. Also, there are plenty of chat-type sites that let you use a temporary ID/name while you’re chatting, without letting you create a permanent. unique login ID. On those sites, I’m sure that different chatters use that same ID when they chat (something common like “FloridaBoy”). If law enforcement can’t get a valid IP address used by the chatter of interest (maybe using VPN), will that common ID that we both use (e.g., FloridaBoy) be enough evidence to identify me as the chatter of interest if they know that I visit that site and use that ID?
I still don’t understand the law, it was not and still is not clear. When we go to the SD, They dont know either. When you call FDLE THEY TELL YOU THAT IF YOUR NOT SURE THEN SEEK LEGAL ADVICE. WHY CAN’T THEY JUST PUT IT IN PLAIN WRITING…. I HATE THIS PLACE AND POLITICAL BS….SO WE GO BACK TO JAIL FOR NON COMPLIANCE (THEIR FAULT) THEN THEY COMPLAIN OF OVER CROWDED JAILS & COSTS OF KEEPING US THERE. IM SICK OF THIS
I read the law and noticed it refers mainly SP’s, with some reference to SO’s, is there any difference in what a SP must do, compared to what an SO must do to comply with this stupid law? Any help?
Nope
@J
Do you still feel happy?
Have any of you (my fellow registered citizens) considered that this law also violates the 5th Amendment?
I’m still confused. Am I supposed to report every website I visit or social media. If that’s the case I would have to list fac also. What about my credit card accounts, mortgage and car payment websites?
Marion county sheriff office isn’t helping this with their stupid little videos about Snapchat’s new map feature saying that “predators are using this to find your children”…
How is it legal to say made up crap like that??
so is my Internet Identifier for this site exempt from registration?
Please ask FDLE and share their answer here.
I spoke to Officer Robert ##### at FDLE Tallahassee; Business and News related posts are not reportable….” I just went into the News Business”. -Bill
I ASKED TALLY ABOUT FAC ; HE SAID YOUR EMAIL IS YOUR INTERNET PROVIDER. LATER TODAY CALLED BACK AND SAID IT SEEMS 699 WANTS THE SITES YOU USE YOUR EMAIL ON ? HE TOLD ME THAT I COULD PUT FAC URL AND MY EMAIL CLICK ADD. I’M JUST GOING TO ADD EVERY SITE I USE MY EMAIL . THEY WANT EYES ON EVERYTHING ; I SAY GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT THE GUY HAD TO READ 699 WHEN I POINTED OUT THEY NOW WANTED SITE THAT EMAIL IS USED ON ?
Google Defines it as:
Internet Identifier Law and Legal Definition. Internet identifier is defined as “any electronic mail, chat, instant messenger, social networking, or similar name used for Internet communication” and does not include “date of birth, Social Security number, or PIN number.” Doe v.
Does not say anything about webpages!
The State of Florida does not apply the Google Definition.
So what is an “internet identifier” then? Is it the email account? is it the email account domain? the email accounts webpage? I’m very confused as to what “internet identifier” is and what Florida is counting as it? So far I have not seen 1 definitive answer that explains it correctly or accurately. Please can we find some guidance on the real answer. As I’m sure no-one wants to pay the price for vague wording or misunderstanding the intent of this law. Surely the FAC attorneys could give us guidance. Thank you for what you do and what your doing to help us.
Who are you and why are you using my identifier?
Let’s not forget that in order to register all your identifiers online in their system…. YOU HAVE TO LOG IN. So I guess we have to register them too!!
Im so new to this and i need help NOW… i have been off probation since 2010. and have started a business and have been running it since. Friday i was arrested for failer to reg. a KIK account.. all of my employees use it to communicate with me and the office. But KIK is not Social Media? is it? I’m so so confused. I don’t have FaceBook Something needed bad in business, but i don’t have it cas I just dont know what right and wrong. So no Facebook, no Snapchat, and no Instagram.. I thought that was social media…. I need help. I’m going to lose my business, my wife, my cat, and my freedom for have a texting app. that my staff talked me in to using because its easier then texting.. PLEASE help
You are required to register internet identifiers – not just social media.
You need an attorney. If you reply with your location, we can refer you to one in the area. Alternatively, if arrested you are appointed a PD if you can’t afford private counsel.
Hi , I JUST FOUND OUT HOW TO COMPLY WITH 699 IN THE ONLINE FDLE. YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE APP YOU USE and check it , add ur email them you ad apps URL. IF YOU USE YOUR EMAIL ON A SITE YOU SCROLL DOWN TO URL AS A APP ,ENTER URL OF SITE AT URL BOX ,PLUS UR EMAIL. Then press add button.
ANYTHING that uses the internet to electronically communicate with other people is “social media”. Kik, snapchat, yahoo messenger, Facebook, teamspeak, discord, aim… Anything that instantly messages someone else or can send them an email. Even xbox live or Playstation.
If you’re in doubt, register it.
Hi , I was. arrested 4 tech violation, these cases are very interesting :
TIMOTHY ALLEN MEADE V STATE
Case#1D01-0168
COURT of appeal first district
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JASON GRUMET V STATE CASE#4D99-4399 APPEAL 4TH DISTRICT
DANNY ADAMS V STATE CASE#3D04-2042 APPEAL 3RD DISTRICT
SAMUEL CLAUDE SELIG V STATE CASE#2D12-258 APPEAL 2ND DISTRICT
DAVID E. KACKSON V STATE CASE #2D00-1700
WE KNOW WE MAY HAVE TO FACE TECHS ;SO WHY WAIT TILL IT COMES TO FIND LEGAL HELP ? GOOGLE SCHOLAR IS A GOOD PLACE TO SEARCH FOR LEGAL CRACKS PREVIOUS CASES HAVE GIVEN US. LEXIS NEXIS AT COURT HOUSE LAW LIBRAY, LEGAL SEARCH app
I live in the Orlando area. I never never knew this.. I just thought Facebook and snapchat are SM. I’m so confused.
So am I really going to lose my business and family to this.? I was not and still am not sure what to put on. I’m not on it to have fun it’s for work only.. please a great lawyer would help. Thank you.
FDLE’s website and registration is so screwed up. On the site it has me with my 2 cars. (and a trailer I junked in 2001– TAG turned in)
The Registration papers that FDLE sends out with the cop states that I have just a truck; (which was junked in 2002–TAG turned in) NO cars !!
I had a small business which went bust in 2004. I have told FDLE, Both on phone and to the cops what I have and dont have; They dont correct anything.
So how do I get the FDLE to COMPLY with its own rules?? How do I make it so I wont go to jail for something that they were told repeatedly to change??
They know the registry is a joke so accuracy is not a priority to them…in fact it just adds to the chaos of the whole custerF!
Keep it confusing so they can violate more people of stupid technicalities that only they know about until they BUST you. This whole thing is evil by design and simply creates a group of second class citizens to remind the masses what the government can do to you if you step out of line.